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2014-10-30 21:16:56
#111
Originally Posted by Re-spect
Here's my Gato manifold for my t25 setup ...



Nobody likes a show-off!
2014-10-31 01:51:04
#112
Originally Posted by Re-spect
Here's my Gato manifold for my t25 setup ...



Im trying to get one made now for my n/a setup, but they said the runners would be about 5 inches......seems kinda short for an n/a setup
2014-10-31 01:58:51
#113
Gato looks nice but the angle sucks on them. You really can't get the heater hose on without some really good ingenuity.
2014-10-31 09:37:01
#114
Originally Posted by BlueRB240
Gato looks nice but the angle sucks on them. You really can't get the heater hose on without some really good ingenuity.


This one's for a boosted car and the it has a little less than 5in runner lengths. Would definitely suck on an NA application. In the end it's gonna kick ass. I know I won't have any heater hose issues with this one since it's short
Last edited by Re-spect on 2014-10-31 at 09-41-56.
2014-10-31 12:45:58
#115
Originally Posted by squirlz
"If they build it, they will come."

That being said, there is no off the shelf, bolt on, intake manifold, period. The closest we have is the Xcessive plenum which takes some modification to make it work to its full potential. It is also not an off the shelf bolt on plenum, but it can be customized to what you want which is nice. I have one of the Xcessive intake plenums and there was a bit of modification required to make it proper. This does not bother me as i am very hands on and take enjoyment from working with my hands. A lot of people do not have the tools, knowledge, or motivation to do this. It is also just the plenum and not a full manifold, so again there is more modification to the stock lower runners to make it perform its best.

It is my opinion that if someone came out with a bolt on manifold that was around the $800-1000 mark it would sell. A few will sell right away as some people do want them. But what needs to happen is back to back testing on a dyno to show the gains. Going back to your point, most people on this forum are not willing to take a risk and test it for themselves, not a great attitude to have for a community that wants good products.

I am going to test the Xcessive plenum I have with the stock TB before the car is put away for winter, then I will do another test in the spring when I upgrade to the Q45 TB and 3.5" intake piping. I also want to change my Mazworx header that has not gotten the best reviews. I am willing to share this info but it is happening on my time, I am in no rush.

All in all, if someone made a full cast manifold that is proven it would sell, it would be a risk for the producer but over time I am sure they would end up making a profit.


If it was any other industry, I would agree. But I have sat back and watch this forum, gone to events, and talked to alot of guys since 2008 and dont see much progressing anywhere as far as customer/fan support. There are a few hard hitters back a few years ago that looked promising to only sell everything and get out of the game. You honestly wouldnt see this in the other "realm" of the sport compact industry. And dont say that SR20's & FWD are still fairly new because there were a few running hard in the early to late 90's. There just really isnt that vibe that that companies will spend the time and money to further the game until people step up.

Im happy that there are a few companies that will support it, but in a true business investment perspective right now, it doesnt look very promising without more and more guys willing to spend the money to show companies that yes, FWD SR's are worth it.
2014-10-31 12:47:17
#116
Originally Posted by Re-spect
Here's my Gato manifold for my t25 setup ...



Not to bash them or anything, but i can tell you no research or thought goes into those manifolds. If you look, they all use the same runners, same plenum for 100 applications.
2014-10-31 13:05:36
#117
Originally Posted by AutotechMotoring
Originally Posted by Re-spect
Here's my Gato manifold for my t25 setup ...



Not to bash them or anything, but i can tell you no research or thought goes into those manifolds. If you look, they all use the same runners, same plenum for 100 applications.


About the same thing my tuner said last year.
2014-10-31 13:49:26
#118
Originally Posted by AutotechMotoring
Originally Posted by Re-spect
Here's my Gato manifold for my t25 setup ...



Not to bash them or anything, but i can tell you no research or thought goes into those manifolds. If you look, they all use the same runners, same plenum for 100 applications.


Again, this is for a turbo application not NA. I'll definitely do better Than stock. Plus the fastest turbo VE and some of the most powerful k series motors in the world run his manifolds. I think he knows what he's doing
2014-10-31 14:05:59
#119
Here is my other intake, it's a bj's i'm using for my turbo car:

Last edited by daveracer on 2014-10-31 at 14-09-22.
2014-10-31 14:13:40
#120
Re: Intake manifold options
Originally Posted by AutotechMotoring
Originally Posted by squirlz
"If they build it, they will come."

That being said, there is no off the shelf, bolt on, intake manifold, period. The closest we have is the Xcessive plenum which takes some modification to make it work to its full potential. It is also not an off the shelf bolt on plenum, but it can be customized to what you want which is nice. I have one of the Xcessive intake plenums and there was a bit of modification required to make it proper. This does not bother me as i am very hands on and take enjoyment from working with my hands. A lot of people do not have the tools, knowledge, or motivation to do this. It is also just the plenum and not a full manifold, so again there is more modification to the stock lower runners to make it perform its best.

It is my opinion that if someone came out with a bolt on manifold that was around the $800-1000 mark it would sell. A few will sell right away as some people do want them. But what needs to happen is back to back testing on a dyno to show the gains. Going back to your point, most people on this forum are not willing to take a risk and test it for themselves, not a great attitude to have for a community that wants good products.

I am going to test the Xcessive plenum I have with the stock TB before the car is put away for winter, then I will do another test in the spring when I upgrade to the Q45 TB and 3.5" intake piping. I also want to change my Mazworx header that has not gotten the best reviews. I am willing to share this info but it is happening on my time, I am in no rush.

All in all, if someone made a full cast manifold that is proven it would sell, it would be a risk for the producer but over time I am sure they would end up making a profit.


If it was any other industry, I would agree. But I have sat back and watch this forum, gone to events, and talked to alot of guys since 2008 and dont see much progressing anywhere as far as customer/fan support. There are a few hard hitters back a few years ago that looked promising to only sell everything and get out of the game. You honestly wouldnt see this in the other "realm" of the sport compact industry. And dont say that SR20's & FWD are still fairly new because there were a few running hard in the early to late 90's. There just really isnt that vibe that that companies will spend the time and money to further the game until people step up.

Im happy that there are a few companies that will support it, but in a true business investment perspective right now, it doesnt look very promising without more and more guys willing to spend the money to show companies that yes, FWD SR's are worth it.

Hate to say it but this is about as true as any statement made about the SR Community that's been said in quite some time. I've been on the Mailing List from the mid to late `90s & the old SR Forums and have noticed the trend of which Autotechmotoring is referring to. Many hardcore SR pilots who were either pioneers or old school members since then have moved on. Very few are willing to shell out serious coin for potentially proven products for our platforms so we are often overlooked by most performance based shops & companies who want to at least break even when investing their time, R&D, & money in development of quality high performance parts for us. Sounds like a broken record but it's still playing. The intake manifold dilemma is being addressed somehow but there is still more that is left on the table. Hopefully the SR FWD community won't be left out in the cold again.
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