Thread: Message from Ben @ JWT regarding SR20VE cams

IMO Kelford 184-C its not the best over N1's we still made comparable numbers here on N1's versus 184-C over there!! So with the background of JWT on developing camshafts I would expect a great camshaft from JWT that really perform better then N1's

Have you guys tested the kelfords on the bigger motors? They might not have shined on your 2.0 setups but I would put money on it they would shine over N1's on the bigger motors.

Maybe its that I dont undestand the way kelford advertise their cams measurements but the more I try to understand the measurements the more I get convinced that they wont make much power over N1's..
The outcome of the cams vary too much from one setup to another but I can tell you that we use the N1's to their limit with the setup's tested over here!!
And the number are up to par with similar setups on 184-C

making a streetable cam tahst drops in without any head work (assuming thats the idea) that can beat the n1 aint as easy as one would think too.... that in itself would take time

Did you guys try the kelfords on your guys 2.4? If not, you just threw away 10hp over N1s

Even on stock compression 2.0L setups the 184c beats the N1 EVERYWHERE.

Most average 8-12whp all over the powerband. I said it before, if you are getting zero gains you guys are doing something wrong. Whether shimming or degreeing. Results never vary here. Every setup shares one outcome, more power/TQ.

Results you see have nothing to do with the N1 and everything to do with location and elevation. For example, my cousins JDM civic type R tuned at 175whp here in CT and 189whp once received in Brownstown,Jamaica using correction factors to reflect dyno jet #'s.

In Ohio, bolted VE's who trapped 103-106 mph in Englishtown,NY (about 100ft above sea level) 101-102 in Lebanon,NY (about 700ft above sea level) and trapped 96-98mph at drag way 42 in Ohio (about 2000ft above).

People need to understand the dynamics of geography and its effects on #'s both at the track and on the dyno.

When done correctly, Pito will make 290whp with no changes but the 184c.

295 with a larger TB
315-325 with ITB's
330+ with the above & 14:1 compression

how much larger than the q45 you guys typically go?

The Q45 is not a true 90mm TB. That's why I hate using them. They are not much larger than a N1.

100-105mm would better feed even a 2.0L VE.

The Wilson Intakes 105mm is the next unit I am using on production intakes.

Jamie thank you once again for sharing your knowledge with the forum.