Thread: Pito's 90x86 All Motor New numbers!!

Doesn't like the idle? I saw a low quality video of them on youtube and i had a hard on for 20 minutes. If S4's do the harley shake than the Kelfords.. I dont know what they do. The big block shake?

Question though. When he tested them on the 2.0, was that builds compression ration below 13:1?

I was reading on the kelford main site earlier this weekend and they specifically stated that the cams aren't even suitable for an engine with anything below 13:1. With the low lobes having something like over 300* duration.. its easy to see. They are some serious lobes. Maybe one where the idle needs to be considerably raised?

They have been proven to give gains on stock ves.

stratton.

It still amazes me that with the time that Kelford has had for VE cam developement that 10whp is all they could get over n1's. I know your powerband Cory was also extended a good 1000 rpm as well if i remember correctly but still. I really dont think they have even touched on the potential that a good cam could make for the 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4 motors. I mean in comparison the k20a2 type r motor has a comparable cam to the n1 as far as specs go and as far as power wise as well. But aftermarket companies such as Drag Cartel and many others have made 30,40, and 50whp above the already good type r cams. So whats to say that if and when a proper cam comes out for the VE that the same or similar results couldnt be had.

Its a shame more companies couldnt get involved trying to bring out more cams for the VE.

can someone post the link pls

i get what you are saying, but on a stock motor, aftermarket cams will make more whp on a k20a than on a sr20ve

peace

Or the Company that is known to make parts for us that didn't JWT....

You ever think maybe because the aftermarket cams were a better or proper design or that more people have spent more time dialing them in correctly to make the most power out of them?

Just like for us, it took the K20 a while to get a cam that could well outperform the factory type r cam. Once that happened many more jumped in and it was all over.

I still think there is a lot more room to go cam wise for the VE. Something doesnt seem right for a factory nissan cam to still almost perform right there with a set of almost 900 dollar aftermarket cams. Not a very good hp for dollar ratio on the cam set. lol.

Really wish JWT would have stepped in on ve cams. Im sure they could have come up with something good.

K series head allow for a lot more lift then an sr and to get an sr to the same lift as the drag cartel cams provide would take a lot of modification to the head that the average joe cant do so theres really nothing kelford can do or any cam company really

finally, some who has done some research

peace

Thats the thing. The head design really comes in to play on the cams of that spec. I remember talking to an old friend who worked in the fabrication department of an SCCA pro team. He was a DSM guy but had worked on many SR's as well. He always stated the main drawback of the SR's heads were restrictions of head flow compared to others. This is where the K series is killing everyone. Someone needs to basically spend the R&D time on several VE heads to see just how much you can get out of it, then build the cam to spec for that head. Once that knowledge is openly available, then you will start seeing the big gains.

The funny thing is you have a company like Mazworx take the SR to what we would think is at its limit in their S15 tube frame drag silvia, and the joke is it runs N1 cams. It really doesnt make sense. Is some engineer at Nissan Laughing? Even more so, the cam was designed for a 1.6. I just dont get it.