Thread: 2.0 VE ITB dyno

Some of these on a ve....mmmmm

Damn. I really need to make it my business to make it out to lebanon with you guys again in the summer time.

Super impressive #'s. I'll be embarrassed to show up with my t25

Honda ITB's are a lot less than any thing were going to spend. Most Honda ITB stuff can be had for 2-3k . Kinsler wont make a VE ITB setup unless u have a lot of money. TWM wants over 5k for a one off. neither of these companies have much exp with a VE. My ITB's cost just under 4k and thats not with a stand alone, fuel inj, lines or the tunning/setup. Honestly it was a shot in the Dark. i used a EXTREMELY knowledge able man to design and build them but we did not even know if they would make any power.

Payu i know u want to be able to use a Map sensor to tune ITB but i wouldn't hold your breath. i tried that on mine and it was a complete waste of time. there is no solid map signal to tune off of most of the time. this is with a nice size vacuum manifold as well. you will most likely have to use TPS based tunning to get any drive ability with ITB's. as far as i know this rules out modded ser ecu's unless they have Alpha-N tuning capabilities

to those who asked about making copies of my header you are wasting your time. this header was spec for my engine combination by BURNS not a generic combo. most people do not have the same setup so its impossible to say any of you would benefit much from it. who of you would be willing to spend 2k on it any way? just the materials alone cost around $1200+.

Ashton not to be a dick but the VE is not a K. they don't react the same as K's do to mods so please stop comparing them. no matter how much most of us want a K version for Nissan the VE is just not it. i am not saying that there are not gains to be made but with the few pioneers we have i doubt we will ever achieve 100% what the Honda boys have n/a power wise.

oh and my Carbon Fiber air horns look cooler :P

Im not saying the VE reacts the same way as a K series. But alot of it has to do with displacement. A 2.4 K series benifiting from the 62mm kinslers should be close to what a 2.45 VE would benifit from it. Being both motors are needing the same amount of air flow. Yes there are small differences. But again why not learn from what the Honda guys have done and kinda follow suit instead of trying one off things that you think will work.

Again good job on the ITB's and the gains. Very impressive. Im just throwing that out there as for the K series itb's It wasnt meant for any type of comparison between the two other than the similarity in displacement. There are many more variables such as headwork and cams to be considered but still. The kinsler is a proven design that has shown 15+whp gains across the board over an aftermarket intake manifold on a stock k24 motor. Large runner, large throttle, and very well designed velocity stacks. Just sayin.

I dont want this to turn into any type of debate. But again we can definitely learn from the honda guys. We will never catch them. Prayoonto racing just went 9.96@137 in their all motor street class car with a 2160 weight w/ driver in their last race of the season then backed it up with a 9.97. We will never get there. Period

how do u know what size tb i am using?? what if i am using 62mm? then what?

LOL, If you are then props for taking some ideas that worked for the honda guys and incorporating them on your motor. And if you are using them then my statement about that they should have good gains stands true and thats not even with a 2.4L high comp motor.

Again im not trying to bash you or anything your doing. Its awesome to see people trying new ideas (to us) and finding good gains from them. So again props and dont take anything I say as negative. Ive only been complimenting your guys' work. Again without more details we will never know, lol. Until I whoop your butts at the convention. hahaha

Looks great. I've been waiting for these results! I'm sure they'll do even more damage when you get them bolted up to one of the big motors!

This is awesome considering its 20whp more then my stock ve made with my custom intake manifold!

Now I'm just starting to worry about keeping up at the convention..... lol

Why everything has to be super secret???
If you discovered something and only want to share the result of your huge accomplishment just to brag about it cool but the why not share at least the specs of the parts used just for reference
Remember not everybody its going to come out and buy a set of custom ITB just to copy your results this is a cheap community not everybody have 6-7K like you to spend on a set of ITB and a custom spec'd header so dont worry about people coming out trying to copy your setup...
About:
Tunercode does have Alpha-N for tps tuning we will see how they incorporate that to speed density conversion when it comes out if not a Haltech sprint 500 will do the job....
I am not a baller so you know!!!

Not to sound like a Dick but you know just my .02

Nothings a secret. I know most of everything in each of the big motors, there can be no secrets because it is what it is. When I built my 15:1 2.4 I put all info out on the table. So has everyone else for the most part.

Although some guys have kept the failuresto them selves, thats fine too.



Bullshit, we know there a sneaky pete set up in there some where ....



At this point im just worried about making it there.

I ask my self everyday if I should call mazworx and just order a built 2.4..... Round three ? Lol.

N ashton, we can relate some of the k info to our motors but at the end of the day our motors are so diff. But u know this.

Rocco keep it up man, great numbers, glad to see they worked out well, deff a good gamble. Maybe we can get up when I come up to jaimes in a week or so.

Stratton.