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nismo94tuner Yeah I wouldn't worry so much about the crank. That would be bad news, lol. Now figuring out things like Alex said is the tough part. If you have fabrication/welding skills, you can save money but material is still fairly expensive. Theres a lot of testing that has to be done as far as throttle body placement, runner diameter, runner length, etc. Then thing like the header as far as length, design, choke, transitions, and crap. Dyno time is not cheap at all either unless you have the connections. I'm not trying to shut down anyones dreams but I figure I put these things out there for the guys who are not too familiar what they are looking at. This is a lot more complex than most would think.
I first thought it was as easy as sleeving a block, buying some pistons/rods, crank, and headgasket. Nope. Luckily I know some of the guys who have been deep into it and ran across all of the obstacles of the 2.4 game. I for one am staying stock stroke to keep everything simple. I know the power will not be amazing but it will do its job.
Bes- This is so true and many people who say they are going to do the 2.4 build either don't make the power they should or end up scrapping the project halfway through. Whether it be due to money situations or just realizing that they got in over their heads or a little of both
Hell some people (JRod) spend the time to do a stock stroke all out build that is going to be a monster, spend all the time and money and never get to install it into a car due to unexpected things that happen, which is why it is called life. You know I'm just busting balls as I'm sure that you would love to have that engine installed into a car.
As far as a stock stroke not making huge power, I think in NA form, 270whp is pretty huge power to me for a 2.3. Of course I am talking 92 bore stock stroke. It will also rev higher so since we have a shitty trans to work with being able to hold 3rd gear in the quarter is a huge advantage as far as drag racing goes. There are more variables than that but look at the times cory did from 2.3 to 2.4. Sure he made more power & torque but his e.t's stayed the same, at least for now (I know that there are so many variables that can effect that so don't take is as a knock at all cory since once it gets cooler and you have a nicely prepped track you should be running slightly better times at least). For the cost difference I would probably not bother to go 2.4 unless I had way more cash than I ever will. I still think Cory will end up with better et's with the more power & torque that he made by stroking the engine but there is still no cookie cutter formula on the 2.4ve's. There are known setups that work but most people don't share that information on here for good reason. Back to the point, even if the crank is cheap, the engine will not be and a great way to keep costs down is to keep the stock crank. I think 280+whp can be done on stock stroke with the right combination of parts, knowledge and tuning.
(You could probably even bolt a log manifold with a medium sized turbo onto a stock stroke ve if you want more power.... just felt like beating a horse as that damn horse just won't die) hehehe... just busting balls
Drew
I didn't even know you were posting in this thread when I wrote that Jrod, lol.... We seem to be reading the same book and keep ending up on the same page if not the same paragraph