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2011-08-18 12:06:46
#31
My JWT ecu was pretty rich on my b13 VE.
2011-08-18 14:01:31
#32
Stock maf, stock ecu, ve injectors? Better get a tune asap. You really don't want to wash out that oil and catch a rod knock. Get a tune.
2011-08-18 16:29:56
#33
Originally Posted by Redline
My JWT ecu was pretty rich on my b13 VE.


Jwts are always ricj, not to ricj but just safe rich.

Stratton.
2011-08-18 17:12:47
#34
Originally Posted by STRATTON
Jwts are always ricj, not to ricj but just safe rich.

Stratton.


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2011-08-18 17:18:53
#35
The only way to tell is using a wideband, otherwise is hit and miss
2011-08-18 18:38:48
#36
It's all speculation since the OP has not given enough info. No dyno graph,no afr graph, no snap shot of data scan, or engine codes. Trying to top out in 4th gear is a great way to hurt an untuned engine.
2011-08-19 01:47:38
#37
for info check this thread
it was from 5+yrs ago. i deleted my posts, but some folks quoted me before i had a chance to do so. it turned into a super BIATCH session but you can still get the "just" of it.
ecu-jwt VE vs stock dyno results!! - Page 4 - SR20 Forum
2011-08-19 01:58:27
#38
Originally Posted by Teal97
when in closed loop (feedback) the ecu uses info from the o2 sensor, maf and tps in attempt to keep things near stoich. it compensates some, for the larger injectors.
the values in the fuel tables are primarily for open loop operation, iirc. so when you tromp on it and go into open loop the afr's WILL go richer with the de ecu/ve injector combo than a de ecu/de injector combo, no doubt. "pig rich" is a point of view, however.
but, what has been dyno proven already is the fact that the ve likes to run richer than convention wisdom dictated for the de. there are lots of ppl running de ecu/ve injectors with NO ill affects.


Shit my car ran GREAT with the ve inj, de maf/ecu combo and 22ish degrees ign timing. I noticed no gain going to a calum ecu with his "base" tune. Granted, this was with 20ve exh/16ve intake cam combo, but I was shocked at how well the motor ran with the de ecu!
2011-08-19 02:08:52
#39
i think the reason for running so much timing is because of how low of timing the stock de maps have.. atleast from what i've seen anyway.. nistune comes with a ton of different maps
2011-08-19 02:11:43
#40
advancing the base timing to ~22*-23* is effectively getting closer to replicating the VE ecu timing map. there's a post over there by Calum himself stating how much more timing there is in the factory ve map compared to the factory de map. some parts as much as 17* more!
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