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Thread: 236WHP & 165Torque Stock Bottom End

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2011-03-24 07:02:32
#181
Originally Posted by 5speed
I find it a little amusing when people are saying the trap speed at the end of the quarter mile is a better measurement of hp than a dyno. I would say they are both flawed, and the trap speed mph is even more so.

And here’s why, the top speed at the end of the quarter is affected by even more variables than the typical dyno. First, your top speed will be affected by traction, whether the car is on street tire or slick, track surface temperature, and track surface prep, whether it’s greasy, grippy, sandy. You also have to consider the track condition such as air temperature, humidity, barometric pressure, elevation of the track, and wind condition, whether it’s a 10mph head wind or tail wind. If you didn’t have enough variables to think about, you have to also factor in the weight of the car. At least the dyno has a weather station and correction factor to take out some of these variables.

Let take an example car with 200hp and run it on different tracks. One track is in LA at sea level and in the winter, and the second track is in Denver in the middle of summer.

Will the top speed be different between the two tracks?

The answer, Hell Yes. Any racer will tell you they run different top speed depending on the condition of the track.

So why are we trying to compare top speed from different cars from different part of the world at different time?

That’s why I like dyno days. All the cars at the same place and time.


Agreed, a lot of guys think power is all that its about, gear ratio also plays one of the biggest roles in this equation.
2011-03-24 07:54:55
#182
I agree both are flawed but I never mentioned trap speeds. In that thereare way to many variables. Same with dyno. And even 1330.

But it looks like a bad ass build. Congrats bro, and fuck the haters.
2011-03-24 13:43:22
#183
Originally Posted by 5speed
First, your top speed will be affected by traction, whether the car is on street tire or slick, track surface temperature, and track surface prep, whether it’s greasy, grippy, sandy.

I agree with this but then again you get timed for tracction, so if tracction is an issue you'll know its not getting the best runs out of the car and there is room for improvement

Originally Posted by 5speed
That’s why I like dyno days. All the cars at the same place and time.

X2
2011-03-24 13:47:58
#184
Originally Posted by BlueRB240
Ross Machine Racing - Velocity Stacks


^Thanks for the link. I'm probably gonna build my own.
2011-03-24 18:00:25
#185
Originally Posted by 5speed
I find it a little amusing when people are saying the trap speed at the end of the quarter mile is a better measurement of hp than a dyno. I would say they are both flawed, and the trap speed mph is even more so.


+1

Thats why i dont like drag racing at all... because its not real racing. Take it to real race track and see who has good prepped car + driver.
2011-03-24 18:59:31
#186
Originally Posted by Re-spect
Agreed, a lot of guys think power is all that its about, gear ratio also plays one of the biggest roles in this equation.


Originally Posted by jagy
+1

Thats why i dont like drag racing at all... because its not real racing. Take it to real race track and see who has good prepped car + driver.


Good points from both, the gear ratio and driver skill have a lot to do with top speed.
2011-03-24 22:22:40
#187
Really nice number's man.. Keep up the good work..
2011-03-25 00:37:24
#188
Originally Posted by 5speed
Good points from both, the gear ratio and driver skill have a lot to do with top speed.


And you forgot the weight of the car also determends your trap speeds.
2011-03-25 00:40:59
#189
Originally Posted by jagy
+1

Thats why i dont like drag racing at all... because its not real racing. Take it to real race track and see who has good prepped car + driver.


You don't like drag racing at all or you dont' like s t r e e t r a c i n g.Hard running ve+good driver=Wins wins wins.And I like beating up on hondas around my area.But theres nothing like the track.Thats where is at.
2011-03-25 00:42:18
#190
indeed.. i like knowing my trap speeds and my times.. lets me know where i really stand.
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