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2012-06-07 21:29:53
#151
Originally Posted by SR20GTi-R
Stephan at ASP is sitting at 336whp in the all-out K24 build drag car.

I will get his build sheet so we can compare a few things.

And btw his drag car sits at 380whp w room to go..
2012-06-07 21:36:40
#152
Well tell the k series is better to the last two that got beat by me at BIR in the all motor class : ) lol jk

But seriously we dont have to stress about getting jacked, so we also have that edge lol
2012-06-07 21:41:53
#153
Sr20gitr I know you and cory doin stuff for the ve so I'm not putting it down. I have a ve, beat b and k series with it but fact is that overall as of now k is dominant.
2012-06-07 21:53:28
#154
I dont think anyone was arguing that, lol. More pointless arguements.
2012-06-07 21:55:52
#155
Originally Posted by 1sentra-se-r
Really stock original block and head that came together from Nissan? Cams too? Ok thought so.


Complete stock, untouched block.

An N1 head that has smaller valves than a stock 20ve head
With the casting marks cleaned up from factory.

Factory N1 cams

ITB's
2012-06-07 21:57:35
#156
Originally Posted by nismo94tuner
Think of Keiths K25 J. He recently made ~303whp on e85. Tuned over at Xenocron. I can guarantee it is no cheap build either. We really are not far off especially with the bullshit we have for cams. Our IM/header's can only flow air through the motors so much.


something is wrong with your buddys car.

my friend has a k24/k20, 87mm piston, pump gas, skunk 2's, lightly ported head, bolt ons. makes a true 300whp, i watched him run down a ctsv that was about 5 cars out and @ wot. he dropped to 3rd and hit it, caught up and put another 2 cars or so on him before he hit the break. he reeled that ctsv in like my turbo car would have. after seeing that simple pump gas k, i realised no sr20anything will have those characteristics on the street.

Originally Posted by SR20GTi-R
K24's don't need sleeves as they are naturally larger motors with taller blocks.

In theory these SR's are simple piston/rod motor builds. The same power can be had with the 2.3 without the crank. So taking out the price of sleeving, what makes any of these builds that amazing? The only reason costs are up is because most bolt on's are one-off's.

Type S swaps average $4-5000, so dollar for dollar I don't see much difference.


10k alone to build a 280whp sr motor. 4k will get you a tsx swap that does 260 untouched with cams, bolt ons and kpro. we need to sleeve and stroke to even attempt to keep up. forget it when they sleeve or stroke, theyll treat a ve like its a goddamn de with s4's.

or go surf k20a.org, ephatch.com or honda tech and you could get an entire low 11sec k series hatch that just came off the cover of honda tunning.

thats the difference i see at the end of the day.

stratton.
2012-06-07 21:59:15
#157
Originally Posted by 1sentra-se-r
Sr20gitr I know you and cory doin stuff for the ve so I'm not putting it down. I have a ve, beat b and k series with it but fact is that overall as of now k is dominant.


Not trying to argue, just trying to get everyone to understand where they are ahead and understand the potential.

Seriously, maybe 5 VE builds and we are over 290whp? With no big companies doing development? I think that is huge.
2012-06-07 22:00:18
#158
by the way type s swaps arent 4k anymore way cheaper, you can get a jdm k20a2 type r swap thatll rev to 10k all day and crank out about 235whp with cams and a better header with honda reliability, on a factory assembled 5 year old motor.

stratton.
2012-06-07 22:05:24
#159
Ur just mad. Go buy a k then ; )
2012-06-07 22:06:13
#160
With all learned I could do this all over for almost half.

Lots of things learned along the way. I will leave it at that.
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