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Originally Posted by
nismo94tuner
Think of Keiths K25 J. He recently made ~303whp on e85. Tuned over at Xenocron. I can guarantee it is no cheap build either. We really are not far off especially with the bullshit we have for cams. Our IM/header's can only flow air through the motors so much.
something is wrong with your buddys car.
my friend has a k24/k20, 87mm piston, pump gas, skunk 2's, lightly ported head, bolt ons. makes a true 300whp, i watched him run down a ctsv that was about 5 cars out and @ wot. he dropped to 3rd and hit it, caught up and put another 2 cars or so on him before he hit the break. he reeled that ctsv in like my turbo car would have. after seeing that simple pump gas k, i realised no sr20anything will have those characteristics on the street.
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Originally Posted by
SR20GTi-R
K24's don't need sleeves as they are naturally larger motors with taller blocks.
In theory these SR's are simple piston/rod motor builds. The same power can be had with the 2.3 without the crank. So taking out the price of sleeving, what makes any of these builds that amazing? The only reason costs are up is because most bolt on's are one-off's.
Type S swaps average $4-5000, so dollar for dollar I don't see much difference.
10k alone to build a 280whp sr motor. 4k will get you a tsx swap that does 260 untouched with cams, bolt ons and kpro. we need to sleeve and stroke to even attempt to keep up. forget it when they sleeve or stroke, theyll treat a ve like its a goddamn de with s4's.
or go surf k20a.org, ephatch.com or honda tech and you could get an entire low 11sec k series hatch that just came off the cover of honda tunning.
thats the difference i see at the end of the day.
stratton.