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2010-12-14 16:31:49
#11
Originally Posted by javcrodgz
It has everything to do with what kind of power you are looking for.


Wanting around 200hp, preferably wheel but crank will be fine.

Thanks to all for comments.

I know the VE head will fit a DE block but will it bolt on directly or will there need to be modifications or redrilling holes?
2010-12-14 17:41:54
#12
^ so are saying you would be satisfied with 170-175whp? thats around 200 to the crank

peace
2010-12-14 17:47:45
#13
I'd go with a complete VE man. VE motors are cheap now and you get a better oil pump, oil squirters, and a lighter 4CW crank that will yield a little more power than the 8CW/girdle setup with your DE. You will have to run an external oil feed to get oil to the solenoids for vvl. Either way you will be around the same price range once all is said and done. Get a complete VE motor and sell off your DE parts.
2010-12-14 17:49:38
#14
I'm considering a VE head swap as well..

Isn't the DE bottom end stronger than the VE?
Wont bolting a VE head to DE block require new pistons to keep a decent c/r?
2010-12-14 18:01:12
#15
I am pretty sure you will be limited to the stock 20ve cams. You won't have clearance with bigger cams IIRC.
2010-12-14 18:02:55
#16
Originally Posted by nismo94tuner
I'd go with a complete VE man. VE motors are cheap now and you get a better oil pump, oil squirters, and a lighter 4CW crank that will yield a little more power than the 8CW/girdle setup with your DE. You will have to run an external oil feed to get oil to the solenoids for vvl. Either way you will be around the same price range once all is said and done. Get a complete VE motor and sell off your DE parts.


but with the de pistons and ve head, wont the compression be a bit higher hence more power?

well guess it depends on the cr of the de lower half too

4cwt vs 8vwt again. guess we getting into which one more balanced and such like... again

peace
2010-12-14 18:07:41
#17
I wouldn't fear the 4cw. Guys worry about them being unstable. We have had plenty of guys whose motors live at 9K. I personally was revving mine to 9K everyday. It has seen the track multiple times, beat to hell on the street, and lost count of how many dyno passes. I also was a nitrous whore and sprayed many bottles through my motor. I used a Gspec pully and it lasted a long time. I had no rev limiter and the motor has been taken over 10K when a misshift would happen. I wouldn't worry about the balance issue. Get some fresh bearings for the motor and call it good.
2010-12-14 18:19:09
#18
Originally Posted by niZmo
^ so are saying you would be satisfied with 170-175whp? thats around 200 to the crank

peace


Well, like I said, I would prefer 200whp. 170 is a big increase from the stock sr20 but I may get hungry for more
2010-12-14 18:22:22
#19
Originally Posted by nismo94tuner
I wouldn't fear the 4cw. Guys worry about them being unstable. We have had plenty of guys whose motors live at 9K. I personally was revving mine to 9K everyday. It has seen the track multiple times, beat to hell on the street, and lost count of how many dyno passes. I also was a nitrous whore and sprayed many bottles through my motor. I used a Gspec pully and it lasted a long time. I had no rev limiter and the motor has been taken over 10K when a misshift would happen. I wouldn't worry about the balance issue. Get some fresh bearings for the motor and call it good.


^I remember when you were such a turbo guy. Man you love this all motor stuff lol. Good advice.
2010-12-14 18:26:11
#20
If it wasn't for Jamie, i'd probably be on a sc6262. That was until he took me for a ride in one of his cars and I saw the tach read 9K+! The stock VE bottom is perfect. Freshen the bitch up and I wouldn't worry at all. Shit, my VE was actually a sludge motor and it lasted through all the abuse haha.
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