ok, some more info on this...
even with the chipped VE ecu, he had chosen to use the emanage to tune up the car, which the tuner did on the day, and their plans were to have the emanage to switch cams at the same time etc..
but unfortunately thats where they hit problems, with the emanage hooked up they couldn't switch cams, tried various things, in the end from what I understand they gave up on the emanage switching the cams, so just cut the wires on the harness that relate to this, and thus left the cam switching to the ecu, and the AFR and timing done via the emanage...
the 5 degrees he mentions is the base timing, ignition timing etc from what I understand was done with the emanage...
but with the tuner not being able to move cam switch points, he could only do so much with the mapping..