Thread: VE with stock cams= good daily

I honestly never minded the N1's for a daily. I put a few hundred miles on the stock ve cams and didn't sacrifice much upgrading to the N1 cams. I am going to sell my N1's and pick up a set of 184-C's and still daily drive the car.

Having driven and degreed most of the factory VE camshafts, I would rank them in the following order for low end power.

1. 20V best
2. N1
3. 20VE
4. 16VE

Keep in mind there isn't a large difference between them, we are talking about the lowend after all.



I don't know why you have such a strong opinion about this subject when you know you have no first hand experience.

I will point out one major contradiction to your statment about the 16VE being the best because of the scavenging. In reality, it's has one smallest low camshafts. The intake is the smallest of all the camshaft. Since scavenging require the intake and exhaust to be open at the same time, how is that possibile when the 16VE has 0*overlap.

Is there an actual quantifiable way to prove better low end power, or is it simply butt dyno that you've come to this list? I mean, since all testing is done through the power range, (forgive my ignorance) does the low end portion just spike sooner than, say, the 16ve cams do? Also, if there is improved low end tq in the 20v (assuming it's even noticible enough to waste the time and money) is there a drawback of reduced gas mileage or high end power or is it just simply improved power low end and same power high?