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2010-11-04 21:17:28
#31
good stuff Kiwi-japie cranks look about 98% simular

The crank you posted is 36.3 pounds which is lighter than the stock crank, not bad.

The crank I posted should be about the same wight and at $900 is a great price.
2010-11-04 21:24:52
#32
Let me make one more statement on this


92mm Pistons Mazworx = $600
Manley-Eagle Rods = $320
92mm crank shipped = $950
ACL bearings = $160

Total = $2030


Thats a great price for a 2.45L stoker kit.

It is completly incredible how the price on the SR20 parts are droping.
2010-11-04 21:28:35
#33
Dont you need Darton sleeves, Mazworx headgasket,.. ? Plus companies dont charge a few for block work.
2010-11-04 21:42:18
#34
Originally Posted by jagy
Dont you need Darton sleeves, Mazworx headgasket,.. ? Plus companies dont charge a few for block work.



What does one thing have to do with the other. You have to sleeve a block to do any stoker kit 89mm and above piston setup, you are comparing apples to oranges.


Previous to this, the cheapest you could get a storker kit for was $2900. Now the pice is down to $2040 for everything.

This is great stuff
2010-11-04 22:06:04
#35
Yeah, i got it. Its very good price. Just not final.
2010-11-04 22:14:44
#36
Originally Posted by BenFenner
I read the pro-billet argument in the article Miko linked in the other thread. I'm convinced those arguing for billet don't understand how the forging process works and what it actually does to the grain of the metal. Nor do they understand how machining a forged billet slug ruins the strength gained from the initial forgin


I would agree with this to a point, but again just because it is forged doesn't mean that the grain structure makes it stronger. I have designed forging dies before. They can be done wrong.
2010-11-04 22:16:58
#37
Originally Posted by Andreas
What does one thing have to do with the other. You have to sleeve a block to do any stoker kit 89mm and above piston setup, you are comparing apples to oranges.


Previous to this, the cheapest you could get a storker kit for was $2900. Now the pice is down to $2040 for everything.

This is great stuff



This reminds me of another thread where people didn't get your point...

Once again thanks for heads up.
2010-11-04 22:21:50
#38
Originally Posted by Andreas
It is completly incredible how the price on the SR20 parts are droping.
Now if only it could be like the domestic V8s with $150 aluminum heads that gain untold millions of horsepower, etc.
2010-11-04 22:25:18
#39
Originally Posted by BenFenner
I read the pro-billet argument in the article Miko linked in the other thread. I'm convinced those arguing for billet don't understand how the forging process works and what it actually does to the grain of the metal. Nor do they understand how machining a forged billet slug ruins the strength gained from the initial forging.



Did you realy read the complete article and then make that statement. There seems to be some qualified people giving their opinion. I mean damn the guy from scat makes cranks and rods.

Tom Lieb Of Scat:

"A forging is not as strong as billet because the forging process stretches and shears the grain structure. A forging starts out as round bar of metal and gets twisted and turned to make the rod throws. What used to be centerline of the bar is now offset, and the grains get stretched, traumatized, and weakened, although some sections of it are substantially stronger than in a casting. With billet, there are no stress riser areas because the grain structure runs parallel to the length of the entire crank. Forgings are stronger than billet in bolts and axles because the metal isn't being stretched and sheared. There isn't a single Top Fuel, Funny Car, Nextel Cup, or F1 team that uses forged cranks, so you have to ask yourself why."


Judson Massingill Of The SAM:

"Up to 600 to 700 hp, forgings are every bit as good as billet cranks, given adequate journal overlap. However, when you start reducing the overlap with long strokes and small rod journals to reduce bearing speed, billet comes out on top. In our motors, billet lets us get away with less journal overlap."
2010-11-04 22:27:50
#40
Yes, I read the entire article. Yes, I realize I'm disagreeing with those two guys. I'm siding with the other two guys you failed to quote who say they believe forged cranks are stronger than billet (and why).
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