Thread: Girdle on VE

Can I just bolt one in my VE?

You need to use de or det main studs.

I figured as much! Thanks!

- Is there an advantage, or disadvantage for using one of these on a VE? I didn't plan on using one with my VE build.

The block girdle helps with NVH at high rpm, contributes to block strength and specifically helps with main bearing and crankshaft life at high rpm.

It ties all of the main caps together producing a stronger bottom end. None of the main journal supports can move independently of each other and shake around. (It's even better to tie the girdle into the outer block skirt but that's not something our engine has. See the Honda F20C.)

It does also slightly hinder oil return to the pan and promotes windage. I think Miko has said in the past quite a bit of power can be regained by removing the girdle because of the reduced windage. I've always preferred having the girdle versus freeing up that power.

They are extremely common on race engines for obvious reasons. (Then again race engines don't have to worry about windage because of dry-sump oil pumps.)

I replied in the other thread. You can use the de/det or gtir main bolts. And im pretty sure you have to use the de or det upper and lower oil pans.

I have a girdle on my ve block and am using the de oil pans both upper and lower and using the gtir main bolts. You can get the bolts from Greg V. They are just as cheap as the de/det ones but are stronger material.

is it a str8 bolt on.... i was under the impression that it needed to be rubbed down

@ Ashton: I could get some ARP main studs as well, right?

Dont use the ARP main studs unless you plan on having to line hone the mains. They will tweak the bottom end. Just get the gti-r main bolts and be done with it. They are almost as strong and cheap as hell and dont cause problems.

Thanks!