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2010-10-19 12:44:39
#21
Originally Posted by Autech
not doable on stock manifold( US figures are higher than the rest of the world:bigthumbup

210Hp is more like it! Even with 70mm!


Maybe the rest of the world has some catching up to do.

I have the exact dyno that you "tuned" on and I called dyno dynamics in Aussie land to find some truth behind the dyno readings between the US and the "rest of the world". Comes to find out there is no difference between readings and it is all myth.

When I get to the shop I am going to dyno a VE powered car and use the KW output instead of HP to show you a few things. I would also like to know what your tuner is using for a load and inertia when he does your car.

Dynapacks tend to read slightly higher than the Dyno Dynamics but I have found this to be limited to about 10-15~hp or so between the same vehicle. This all comes down to the conditions and what the operator uses for a load/inertia.

Its seems like your lack of power is in your tuning and not dyno # output.
2010-10-19 12:46:44
#22
Originally Posted by Autech
Ive got plenty of dynoes to prove it here

Dale


I would like to see all of these dyno charts.

Track times for all of these cars would be nice too. (If available)
2010-10-19 12:55:34
#23
Originally Posted by Autech
not doable on stock manifold( US figures are higher than the rest of the world:bigthumbup

210Hp is more like it! Even with 70mm!


^Is this comment based on a 2.0 bottom end?
2010-10-19 13:34:18
#24
Originally Posted by Autech
Ive got plenty of dynoes to prove it here

Dale


Weve got plenty of 1/4 slips to prove it. 230whp is not some far off number. Shit kesi was doing close to that 6 years ago and agian he had the slips to prove it.

230 whp nowadays is childs play. We have two n/a ves running 11.4 and 11.6 and a bunch running high twelves right here in our community. You should be sure of the info you post before you send some one down the wrong road.

I dont wanna start a pissing match but ny has a ve being built/put back together thats hoping to hit high tens on just motor !

Stratton.
2010-10-19 14:57:16
#25
this set up can get u there on a higher octane like in the states..... Debo could put u there EASY.... but alas the octane is whst going to hold u back..... a meth/water injection system would make this very possible thou.... to me
2010-10-19 15:08:45
#26
Damn its getting hot in here lol

Hey stratton, what size is juns new motor
2010-10-19 18:36:49
#27
Please dont start with the bench racing... keep ith on the subject...
I dont think that 230whp its childs play on a well calibrated realistic dyno...
it would require at least a good custom IM and Header and high compression and probably 184-C cams and probably some head work done to get those numbers on a 2.0L realistically not on a high reading Dyno....
2010-10-19 18:54:17
#28
Originally Posted by Payu
Please dont start with the bench racing... keep ith on the subject...
I dont think that 230whp its childs play on a well calibrated realistic dyno...
it would require at least a good custom IM and Header and high compression and probably 184-C cams and probably some head work done to get those numbers on a 2.0L realistically not on a high reading Dyno....


X2, Finally, somebody with some common sense.
2010-10-19 19:52:13
#29
Originally Posted by SR20GTi-R
Maybe the rest of the world has some catching up to do.

I have the exact dyno that you "tuned" on and I called dyno dynamics in Aussie land to find some truth behind the dyno readings between the US and the "rest of the world". Comes to find out there is no difference between readings and it is all myth.

When I get to the shop I am going to dyno a VE powered car and use the KW output instead of HP to show you a few things. I would also like to know what your tuner is using for a load and inertia when he does your car.

Dynapacks tend to read slightly higher than the Dyno Dynamics but I have found this to be limited to about 10-15~hp or so between the same vehicle. This all comes down to the conditions and what the operator uses for a load/inertia.

Its seems like you lack of power is in your tuning and not dyno # output.


I use a ramp rate of 150 when doing power runs.

I am the tuner for my car.
2010-10-19 20:00:32
#30
Originally Posted by Autech
Ive got plenty of dynoes to prove it here

Dale


Originally Posted by Payu
Please dont start with the bench racing... keep ith on the subject...
I dont think that 230whp its childs play on a well calibrated realistic dyno...
it would require at least a good custom IM and Header and high compression and probably 184-C cams and probably some head work done to get those numbers on a 2.0L realistically not on a high reading Dyno....


Whos bench racing. 230whp on stock mani custom header and h/c pistonsbwas done what 2 years ago.

Stratton.
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