Thread: Great Thread For Kelford 184c Users To Talk

There are 3 confirmed 184c users that are very willing to share their information and findings with these cams.


DERM
CORY
SR20GTi-R


DERM has made big power with these cams but he has found the idle to not be that great. He confirmed to me about 4 months ago that the 184c cams completly out muscled the N1s from 6500 RPMs up.

Cory spoke to me about the same situation with idle and I am sure he will soon post his finding on these cams.

SR20GTi-R was very happy with the cams WHP figures but was a little unhappy with the idle and he has a post with the car idling. I am sure when he finds more things from tuning he will chime in.



DERM feels that the 184c cams up top are perfect, but he feels that the bottom lobes are not right. The small lobes seem not to be degreed right with the high cams which causes a bad idle.

If you think about it the 20V cams out muscle the N1 cams down low by alot and they have a good idle. It would be very intresting to see how the 20V cam lows stack up to the kelford lows. I am confident in my opinoin that the 20V cams are making about the same WHP down low as the Kelford cams. If this is the case then we need to send some feed back to Kelford to see if we cam get a better idle out of these cams.

I personally have no experience with these cams but have heard from all of these guys personally so hearing this info directly from them would be best. if we can all get together and have a grown up conversation about this without anyone taking other people opinions personally we will have a damn good cam for our community.

This is not a Dre hates kelford thing, I am very happy with what I have seen and heard. I still stand by my opinon that the Franklins were not all that.


Please people, lets make good dialogue and willingness to listen to other opinons and be ready to give a good rebudle without taking diffrence in opinons negatively.

Also I have found that in the past 6 months this forum has matured to the point where we can do this.

We have removed many trouble makes and crooks from out community over the past year and you can see the over all maturity of the forum to the point where we can move forward together as a group.

VERY VERY TRUE!

i would like to hear what idle issues there are.... loopy, sporadic, etc.... also what springs n retainers r used for these items

Just go out and get a set of Supertech springs and retainers and all will be well.

will these cams now fall rite in as ive heard issues of fitting them in.... link of the kelford site Kelford Cams Applications

These must be the 184c v2 cams that those guys are running. So now will Kelford do a custom grind with the 184c/20V cam profile? Saw the idle vid, mean *** idle. Very lopey.

wheres the idle video

props to the revolutionaries....

you missed the point. We are not looking for 20V L with Kelford highs. We are thinking that the Kelford Ls are about the same size as the 20V L but they are not degreed properly. When you sold the idle problem you loose WHP up top and when you get them idling like crap the WHP picks up up top. This means the cams need to have the lobes degrees better to each other.