Still not ready to throw in the towel. I remember that I put the N1s in at the same time I did ignition. My next step is to see if they are in correctly. I was careful putting them in right but I think it is possible I jumped a tooth on start up. I know valve timing being off can cause detonation. I am just starting to think that it is not the ignition. I rechecked all my wiring and even took the distributor apart and mad sure there were no shorts at where i made the external trigger. I also retarded timing again and put octane booster in the gas as an experiment and it still detonates. I may end up sending ignition to MSD to have them test it and see if it is working properly.