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2009-06-17 13:05:22
#31
Originally Posted by BenFenner
I think part of the apprehension might be because Charles made a big stink about making them "right" and getting the two lobes (high and low) degree'd (with respect to each other) as well as making sure the newly designed intake cam would play nice with the current exhaust cams (or was a new exhaust cam in the works too?) making it a complete drop in affair (a la JWT cams) instead of having the intake lobes incorrectly degree'd (with no solution) and the intake cam overall not matched well in degree to the exhaust cam requiring cam gears (a la BC cams).

Cams are complicated. Charles made sure we knew that, and that he was going to make them right.

Have we been given the same assurance from Franklin?

I think not.


My feelings exactly
2009-06-17 13:22:47
#32
Originally Posted by BenFenner
I think part of the apprehension might be because Charles made a big stink about making them "right" and getting the two lobes (high and low) degree'd (with respect to each other) as well as making sure the newly designed intake cam would play nice with the current exhaust cams (or was a new exhaust cam in the works too?) making it a complete drop in affair (a la JWT cams) instead of having the intake lobes incorrectly degree'd (with no solution) and the intake cam overall not matched well in degree to the exhaust cam requiring cam gears (a la BC cams).

Cams are complicated. Charles made sure we knew that, and that he was going to make them right.

Have we been given the same assurance from Franklin?

I think not.


Great points given this market; those willing to test and tune seem to be the atypical. The difference is that Franklin has a product and Charles does not. Sometimes you just have to work with what's available, be it optimal or not.
2009-06-17 13:31:39
#33
Making a suboptimal cam and testing it, and then maybe doing more R&D and coming out with a better cam makes sense in some instances, but not in this instance where the suboptimal cam design is known to be suboptimal, and a superior design is well known. It would make sense to expect something marginally better, but with room for improvement if this were new ground, but it's not. We already know, or have a good idea of what needs to be done. It would be silly for Franklin to do otherwise. And if they are half the company people say they are, they've probably done the right thing, and made the cam everyone wants. We don't know that though. All we have to go on are bits and pieces of information, and apparently no dyno graphs (unless you count evlnxer).

I see what you're saying. The Honda guys buy stuff like this all the time in the hunt for more power, if it works, yay, if it doesn't the companeis go back to the drawing board. That's not something our crowd does (or can do) for some reason or another (maybe they do in exceptional cases) but none of that matters here. There was a product the community wanted, and Charles was going to give it to them. Maybe Franklin has it, maybe they don't. It would be great if they'd release the specs so we could decide for ourselves.
2009-06-17 14:04:47
#34
Subscribed.
2009-06-17 14:53:22
#35
I get the feeling to make nissan owners happy someone needs to build a cam that has a small lobe cam better than a 20v, on a shaft inside the big lobe cam's shaft, that you can adjust/degree independantly of the large lobe cam. The large lobe cam must make 42whp over n1's and make peak power at 7krpm and hold it till 11k rpm, then it must drop in on stock springs and retainers and it must be available for $550 shipped, with the trick dual action cam gears included no?
2009-06-17 14:55:20
#36
^LOL.
2009-06-17 14:58:52
#37
Originally Posted by Doctor
I get the feeling to make nissan owners happy someone needs to build a cam that has a small lobe cam better than a 20v, on a shaft inside the big lobe cam's shaft, that you can adjust/degree independantly of the large lobe cam. The large lobe cam must make 42whp over n1's and make peak power at 7krpm and hold it till 11k rpm, then it must drop in on stock springs and retainers and it must be available for $550 shipped, with the trick dual action cam gears included no?


Where do I sign up?
2009-06-17 15:14:36
#38
has anyone purchased these yet???

if not i will volunteer to be a ginie pig (lol) i have a set of franklin's right now...they changed the names, i believe they would be the stg 3 but were called fast road before...car will be dynoing and getting some track time this weekend, will post up numbers of my current cams(ohh yeah i already have the s/r)
2009-06-17 16:09:00
#39
Originally Posted by Doctor
I get the feeling to make nissan owners happy someone needs to build a cam that has a small lobe cam better than a 20v, on a shaft inside the big lobe cam's shaft, that you can adjust/degree independantly of the large lobe cam. The large lobe cam must make 42whp over n1's and make peak power at 7krpm and hold it till 11k rpm, then it must drop in on stock springs and retainers and it must be available for $550 shipped, with the trick dual action cam gears included no?


$550! youd be a fool to spend that much on cams that make only that much power..

ill give you $50 plus some cams i found in the breakers to re grind..
2009-06-17 16:49:48
#40
Doctor G, I'll race you to the patent office.
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