Thread: :( got skool'd

bro if i had the cash for the full setup i'd doit, i've got bout 100 bux saved up so far.. think im gonna go with the 3" pipes prolly resonatorless for a little while.. here maybe next weekish or so i should have the money to get the exhaust from u bluebomber..

you have exhaust leak i to had one but when fixed it helps, your running to rich with the leak an im betting your timing it set to high or not enough

you should not lose..

i havent timed it, but i got the de dizzy placed where the ve one was.. also same spot as most stock de's i've seen.. or can i only set the timing when its in timing mode?? im kinda puzzled there lol

set the timing anywhere from 12-15 deg and it should run better

Yeah, but remember you got a VE tranny. It's an equalizer with your setup.




Speed costs money. How fast can you afford to go?

Or as I remember reading in someone's signature "Cheap and reliable ain't fast. Cheap and fast ain't reliable. Fast and reliable ain't cheap." Truer words were never written.

^ You know Im a VE guy! But you also know a good DE is hard to beat. Some of these guys think when you put a VE in a car it is gonna WALK on all DEs... Bolted or not.
Joe you and i know whats up when it comes to this! Fast and reliable is possible done cheap if you drive a sentra!!!!!! HAHAHAHA

My car has a full 3" system & I also have a 2.5" rear muffler that can be swapped on, both are pretty much straight through mufflers. We've datalogged & the difference in flow is almost undetectable. The difference in noise is huge!

I don't even bother putting the 3" rear back on anymore, even for the track or dyno. If you get your exhaust made 3" & then have it tranistion into a 2.5" rear muffler it will make it much quieter with very little (if any) loss of power.

I am guessing you are using an ssac 2.5 collector.
I have always found it silly to go 3" after a 2.5 inch header.Only so much air can flow through a 2.5 inch pipe,and going 3" after that makes no sense to me.(mandrel bent anyway).If you do really gain anything besides noise,I would be surprised.
Think about it ...
now a fuji,turbofreak or asp header that is 3" at the collector...definately want 3" for obvious reasons.

As for the DE/VE "race"
I have a friend with a bolted de...tearoffguy on here
We both have NXs ,mine is VE his is DE
We have been playing around on the street....NOT BREAKING ANY LAWS,SPEEDLIMITS,ETC.,and NOT STREET RACING
But ...WOT pulls and passing each other,etc.

His set up
DE
POP charger
SSAC 2.5
no cat
VRS 2.5
stock cams,ecu
Light flywheel,not sure of the weight...11lbs I think

My current VE setup
Pop charger,3"WAI
VE MAF
Thermoblock spacers
SSAC 2.5
No cat
Magnaflow oval muffler 3" in to dual 2.5 side exittoo fukin loud
stock cams,calum basic ecu
Light flywheel,11lb. I think

Both cars run flawlessly,use the same oil and have the same suspension.
My car is definately stronger,but not as much as you would think for the difference in cost to build.He has surprised me a few times just cruising along and taking off.From a roll it is closer than you think.
We have not gone from a dig,because his car has a 2nd gear syncro issue.I would waste him between 1-2 shifts
VE pulls harder ,and is way louder,but a good driver in a DE could outrun a poor driver in a VE.I will say that launching the VE is a little tricky when you are all pumped...lol.Wheelspin is fun,but not quick.
We plan on having a gruge match at the track someday....he wants me to disconnect my cams...LOL

do u understand how fluid movement or air movement works from a smaller diameter to larger diameter pipe.....what am i asking....of course u dont cause if u did it would surprise u ....rite..... question for u tho is what fuji header is 3".......

THOR is correct, none of the headers that you mentioned have a 3" collector if I am not mistaken, I know the fuji doesn't...there is more to it than just size, LOL.