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2009-03-10 13:42:36

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Looking VEry good sir

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2009-03-10 13:48:31

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Thanks for the information, pics and inspiration.

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2009-03-10 14:49:28

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Originally Posted by Andreas
There is a reason for this.

Most Sentra guys are cheap.

You have to look at the amount of time and money that has to go into making one of these manifolds. Making an intake manifold will require about 2 months of fabrication easy , many hours of instalations and many hours of dyno time

So any good VE intake manifold that will make good HP will cost from $1000-$1400 and will need a 80-100 MM TB.

You ask why.

There are only going to be a solid 20-30 of these things that will be sold. So they have to make their money. Low amounts sold equal higher prices. High numbers sold would cause prices to drop but for that to happen numbers have to be in the 200-300 region.

I didnt ask why, i already know about economy of scale.
I suppose there isnt any middle ground, or the gains are just not worth it for the minimal gains.
Eg 20 people may pay $1000 for 20hp
I'd suspect there would be more willing to pay $500 for 10hp

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2009-03-10 14:52:06

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Originally Posted by lonewolf

So what intake manifold would cost $500 for 10 hp?

Making an intake manifold would be way more than $500

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2009-03-10 14:57:23

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didnt say it was possible, nor that the figures were accurate. More making a point.
It will always be that more people are going to be willing to pay for a budget part, making average power, than those paying top dollar for top power.

Exactly the same as snickers budget header.

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2009-03-10 16:22:31

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To buy the N1 manifold setup and then send to me to do all this will cost over $1000 total

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2009-03-10 16:28:15

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Originally Posted by Super
Looks like the N1 manifold is alot thicker than the standard VE's. Either that or the porting on the flang is giving the illusion that the walls are seriously worked. I've taken one to about 1" before the walls were too thin. Looks like you took awholelot out of the floor too!!

Nice work.

If you see all the added weld on the outside of the manifold. that is because it gets super thin in those spots, and in some spots you have to have the weld there because you actually will grind right through the factory material. Some spots I have probobly taken out about .25" or more material. There is also a few things you have to do to the plenum in a few spots to give better air distribution to the rear runners.

This manifold has been opened up and worked over every sq millimeter. It has a very nice transition and taper from the plenum to the cylinder head. This is why the manifold flows so much. This particular manifold actually flows better than most honda manifolds as well.

If I could make an intake manifold, or offer modified ones for the price range of the budget headers I would. As of now, I Can not do that.

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2009-03-10 18:52:05

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Originally Posted by Andreas
I ported the N1 intake manifold that Manny had. It is perfect for boost. No need to go to the extreme like the one Charles is doing.

NA manifolds are much more critical to making HP. The serious problems of the N1 manifold have already been fixed by me.

All the N1 manifolds I do, I recommend for Turbo use.

There are a few guys running those intake manifolds thay I ported.

There is Yeneil who is making 480 WHP at 18 PSI. Thats the guys who was racing the Silver Super Charged Mustand from Florida Street Scene.

Cool deal. I am hoping to make that much power more or less. What turbo and manifold is he running?

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2009-03-11 01:29:55

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most guys locally will build a custom im for roughly 400-500. but the problem is getting the right specs and everything to have it made properly...

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2009-03-11 02:32:28

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Mr Snickers, is it possible to do a quick 'clean-up', without nessessitating the chopping up of the intake?
Even if the gains are less, at least it's a gain in the right direction, without the issues of welding etc... and cheaper?

Just a thought.

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