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2009-02-26 15:51:10
#271
Originally Posted by natethebrown
WOW, when are people going to realize there is no electrical or mechanical sensing device in the world that reads 100% accurate. There is no such thing as a perfect reading. You can make estimations to compensate for the inaccuracies but they will never disappear. Back in school if we got 90% accuracy on some of our lab experiments we were ecstatic! I personally do not give two sh*ts about the actual numbers on a dyno as long as they trend high. I cannot stand when people say they made 166 hp on a dyno, because you are saying your dyno is over 99% accurate. If you said you made between 160 an 170 hp I would believe you. I don't know much about dynos and the inherent inaccuracies but I do know they are a mechanical sensing device and have plenty of inaccuracies.

EDIT:Either way even if your dyno numbers are a little high they are still good numbers so I congratulate you for a great build.


I just reread my post and I sound a bit harsh. I am not in any way attacking Jun, this was actually written to everyone who is attacking Jun. What I am trying to say is when you see a dyno that says something realize it has errors and go your own way. Why make a big friggin' deal about it? Dyno graphs have errors, you know it, he knows it, everyone knows it, lay off the man.
2009-02-26 15:58:07
#272
natethebrown. I was not directing your wow at you I was mearly using your wow.




I have been educated. :o
2009-02-26 16:18:25
#273
man i just read thru this whole thread and this is funny as hell
2009-02-27 00:10:31
#274
get this thing on the track!!!,these dyno numbers seem so +/- its hard to gauge anything........i highly doubt we will see any numbers from this car from the track now tho...its almost like he likes starting these threads and just sits back and watches as the forum rips itself apart in these 20 page BlTCH fests
2009-02-27 00:43:18
#275
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Originally Posted by b14_vzr
get this thing on the track!!!,these dyno numbers seem so +/- its hard to gauge anything........i highly doubt we will see any numbers from this car from the track now tho...its almost like he likes starting these threads and just sits back and watches as the forum rips itself apart in these 20 page BlTCH fests


Why would they? next someone will say there was 85mph tail wind when he made his pass.
2009-02-27 03:16:51
#276
u guys are unbelievable.

finally some one posts a dyno of a well modded ve with !pistons! and great header.

most people want to doubt it and call bs. instead of saying congrats finally some one put together and owns a ve with aftermarket pistons.

the stock bottom has been done to death, dont hate congradulate.

jun ill be calling you in the next few days. i believe i need a new diff in my p11 tranny. so get some prices and qoutes together for your boy.

stratton.
2009-02-27 05:01:22
#277
You know I am an average guy. But my intelligence makes me wonder why I see people posting hate.......... When they dont even own a VE motor never owned a VE motor and probly know nothing about the motor.
So...... The dyno could be off? Who cares!!!
Im not taking Juns side... But here is a solution. All the haters post up your build pics and dyno numbers!! Its easy to push these buttons on a keyboard and knock the guy busting his balls and taking risks.

So I feel better. Andreas and Charles you guys post all you want... You are the only guys I see on the forum that make any sense when it comes to this.
2009-02-27 06:14:29
#278
IST thing I will never write this much again
2nd This post got more hits than a hooker in hunts point lol

I don’t care about HP.I care about ¼ mile times and traps.
I’m no tuner I don’t know much on how to tune, I know more hands on, I know how to build something fast that’s it. I notice a lot of member act like they know how to make serious power but they really don’t have a clue.

This build was not to prove who has more Horse power it was a simple build and we got good results. All the man did was post the numbers he got on the dyno, we didn’t mess with the numbers in ayway.Some member said he didn’t build the motor, I don’t know of any member who bore their own block. The motor was sent to a machine shop in CT where it was bored 1MM over. Like every builder it was sent to a MACHINE SHOP.JR got back block and him and myself put it together in 2 days. We worked hard all night to get it running and for the customer to get his car turned around quickly. Now many might like him or not that’s not my concern but the lies I just can’t take. I was there and I busted my ass all night to get that thing running with jr.We put it in it fired up we hit the dyno with less than 200 miles on the motor and made what it did.

Now the dyno ,I truly know that dyna packs read higher than JETS like I said,Andreas have a good point and it could be a glitch ,agree with him or not he he’s not flaming just posting thing he findings. I can’t get mad at that man for that, in my opinion he has a good point as Steza.Now Jamie I see you and few others trying to prove power makes less and power flywheel. Super cowboy proved you wrong because both are same in his sheets. The 1st run was 210 hp and torque was in 150 ranges. Tuned it made more power and 168 ft now I’m not a smart guy but I know horsepower gain is gain don’t matter pack jet mustang dynamics dynos that’s cowboys point we gain alot by tuning. You guys coming on here like we setup the dyno to glitch ect all we know is we ran it and we look and tune accordingly .I have known super cowboy six or so years we put together some sick setups for ve’s before alot of you guys been in the picture .Indirectly or directly if you like us or not you are benefiting from our findings. Now I said this before and I say it again 99% of you guys are stock in 80’s that the cam gear setting +5-5 business and bin file sharing makes me laugh .STOP AND TUNE YOU OWN CAR IT WONT WORK THE SAME even if its exact build.
All you guys are waiting for cam’s, begging and begging and then they make kelfords which is an good cam and fs4 and guess what? No one wants to try them .Why they waiting for dre or snicker ,supercowboy or anyone to test first.I just sit back and just watch .Then when you tell someone made for a built motor they put it in anyways on a stock VE and it loses 20-30whp now it’s not a good cam.
I test differently than others this is my opinion on R&D.Some builds fail some work, I for one can say I blew like 6 VE’s. JR probably blew up more. A person who does R&D who never blew up anything and R&D nothing but himself. I am not referring to head flowing or intake flow numbers ECT, real world testing. Now people never post they blow up a motor but from what I learned I can tell you what gasket is junk which one is good which one can hold what power and not by he say she say but by testing .We tested stock VE how much nitrous it can take stock how much HP on boost till it fail pistons rod’s .Tested 15:1 16:1 compression to 8:5:1 VE pistons. Tried it all we put in a lot of work that people are not aware of.Supercowboy gained so much vast knowledge from my old 200sx .Lots of things we do he think is crazy and works some don’t.

Now to car the car was running 12.8 since 2005 when I had it trapping 103-105 range. A few will remember that few might call bull**** fine. I’m not here to amuse or prove anything but to post few finding what we gained.Jr got the car ran it ran 13’s first day got it then headed down to 12’s .We played with it more mad less power with some headers more with some we tried it all and we did some things ran 110 mph all motor .Posted slip because no one believed up and few member was there at the track in 07 or so can’t remember .Then all of a sudden he was spraying so as you can see you can never win. The Funny thing is that motor is still running in a se-r in Yonkers .The guy is not a member but it’s still a beast and I will say it will crack anyone ass on this forum in 1/4 mile built or stock. A member posted before saying” said he seen nitrous “on the green car”, **** you think dre is the nos hoe? WE THE PIMP (jk dre lol).DID he ever sprayed the car HELL YEA but it didn’t runs 13 or 12 lol. All the Nitrous runs are for testing to see how it hold till it blows so if a customer wants a shot he can now what’s the max to put on till it blow its simple. Single fogger and direct port was tested and we still testing now on cp pistons to see how that will hold up.Now if I say that a VE with a 200 shot ran 10.XX everyone will say bull or it can’t be done so we just stay quiet and keep to our selves.
I saw a post someone said he bought Charles motor, yes this is correct. Who would buy a 6k motor for 4-3K? I would ****; I don’t know what the big deal is? What because he said he built it? How do you know what motor is in his car? Not jacking him he a pal but we changed that setup so much times .EVERY YEAR HE CHANGES THE SETUP FOR YOUR INFO! It’s a show car and if it has same setup ever year it cannot compete the next year while everyone has new parts.. Matter fact he changing the whole setup again for the 3rd time. DO yourself a favor and write down the block serial numbers see if the same motor and then you can act up!
Like it or not same people basing Jr he is the only one putting se-r on map on magazines’s, the streets and track while everyone else is just TALK. The NY same guys on the sideline coming to see him run 500+ hp se-r and civics’ ect with AN ALL motor se-r.So you can say what you want you have to give respect where it is due .He accomplished a lot for his age he may not be pleasant ,it’s just the New York competition attitude. Like I said NO OTHER SER guy will run a 500+ ser with all motor car for 10K.
We can post up a video of the car down the ¼ mile but that will start a fight again because some clown will say its spraying or no it can’t be done.Thats why all the knowledgeable guys don’t post we just sit back and watch you guys fight it out.
Before I go ill like to thank super cowboy for letting us use the dyno for hours and hours, Dre got to shout you out for bring our community with so much parts. Like it or not we wouldn’t have half the parts developed without you, I never thanked you for that. FL boy’s my good buddy Chris (donttazmebro) for all the testing you have been doing with the cams keep it up bro, also snickers (Charles) for pushing us here in NE and to the real VE KINGS down in PR payu, digitec and mackin keep rocking them ¼ mile times that’s all I really care about, time slips baby .Big up all the 10 sec street sentras you know who you are!!!Jr thanks for all the hours you put in with me and vise verses .So sideliners do your job and continue to sideline and watch how it’s done! Remember one thing people didn’t get to where they are overnight, they put in work!
2009-02-27 06:17:32
#279
^ very well said

nuff respect
2009-02-27 06:19:53
#280

Word up!
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