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2012-09-07 00:18:29
#171
Originally Posted by SE-Rawkus


I have to admit, I haven't read through the whole thread, but from just skimming the last couple pages I gathered my following thoughts:

Ashton, the problem with your logic is that you are robbing yourself of positive momentum. When you shift, now your motor has to work against inertia. Less inertia to overcome with the other school of thought. That is an important variable you seem to dismiss. Additionally, I agree, the idea is to put yourself in the fat end of the powerband - biggest area under the curve (never thought I'd refer back to Calculus :rofl. But let's study your logic further... you seem to easily assume that your logic is always going to give you the highest average HP, however, that is not always the case. It is highly dependent on the slope of the curve before peak vs. after peak.

Basically, both schools of thoughts are right...and equally wrong.


havent read it all either but what se-rawkus is saying is correct. a higher average horse power does not equal highest forward momentum. the amount of momentum lost on down hill side is much more then amount gained on the upward side. the power drops off much more sudden after peak then it does gaining hp on the upside.
2012-09-07 02:36:28
#172
Here's some more vids of the VE at WOT thru a few gears:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Storm88000/?action=view¤t=vvl4.mp4


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Storm88000/?action=view¤t=vvl5.mp4
Last edited by Storm88000 on 2012-09-07 at 12-19-05.
2012-09-07 02:42:21
#173
Originally Posted by lynchfourtwenty


Not to be an ass, but if you don't like whats being discussed here you don't have to click on the thread. I find this thread very interesting - for those of us fairly new to the SR20VE, it has very good information. There's hundreds of other threads you can read with information that is more relevant to your personal interests.
Last edited by Storm88000 on 2012-09-07 at 02-58-14.
2012-09-07 03:22:07
#174
Originally Posted by Storm88000
Originally Posted by lynchfourtwenty


Not to be an ass, but if you don't like whats being discussed here you don't have to click on the thread. I find this thread very interesting - for those of us fairly new to the SR20VE, it has very good information. There's hundreds of other threads you can read with information that is more relevant to your personal interests.


There is no need to continue to discussion.. Facts are facts and they've been proven an repeated several times.

As for the shift point discussion, don't you think that should be a whole seperate thread as to not contaminate this one?
2012-09-07 03:30:24
#175
Originally Posted by lynchfourtwenty


There is no need to continue to discussion.. Facts are facts and they've been proven an repeated several times.

As for the shift point discussion, don't you think that should be a whole seperate thread as to not contaminate this one?


Facts are facts? 2 + 2 = 4 is a fact. What you see in this thread is a combinations of different opinions. With that said, I, or any other member besides those that were heavily involved in this thread, have every right to post in this thread. Some of us don't live on the forum to actively post every minute to provide opinions, and such.

So like Jordan said, "...if you don't like whats being discussed here you don't have to click on the thread."
Last edited by SE-Rawkus on 2012-09-07 at 03-31-15.
2012-09-07 03:44:35
#176
I apologize I thought the name of the thread was "Safe max rev on SRXXVE cams" which is what I was saying was proven.

Now with ashton an others talking about the shift points, which I believe is a good topic, but would better in another thread.

Maybe you or someone could clean it up an make another thread? That would be sweet
Last edited by lynchfourtwenty on 2012-09-07 at 06-55-44.
2012-10-10 19:56:16
#177
reading this, its pretty unclear to me.. and I feel as though some people who may be extremely knowledgable don't pay attention to detail when they write.. for example, they might call N1 cams/springs SR16 cams/springs... instead of specifying N1 or NON-N1




So here is my question:
On a standard (non-20V) SR20VE motor, do SR16VE N1 cams require stiffer springs/retainers to continue getting power beyond 7000 rpms in every instance, or is it just sometimes??
2012-10-10 20:53:14
#178
Originally Posted by vqman
reading this, its pretty unclear to me.. and I feel as though some people who may be extremely knowledgable don't pay attention to detail when they write.. for example, they might call N1 cams/springs SR16 cams/springs... instead of specifying N1 or NON-N1




So here is my question:
On a standard (non-20V) SR20VE motor, do SR16VE N1 cams require stiffer springs/retainers to continue getting power beyond 7000 rpms in every instance, or is it just sometimes??


how far beyond 7000rpm do you plan to go?

peace
2012-10-10 21:41:12
#179
No you dont need stiffer springs and titanium retainers to rev past 7k with n1 cams. Again most people at least take their n1's to 8000-8500 without issues. My buddy took his to 9k with no issues, 3 years+ on stock sr20ve standard springs and retainers.
2012-10-11 05:13:24
#180
Again i just did rev my 20ve n1 cams to 9k using nemu Rt. It just keeps pushing since i have fuel and timing past 8k.using stock springs
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