Originally Posted by ashtonsser 
I dont have the dyno sheet as the dudes printer was broken.
Here was Peters setup
Stock internal VE
N1 cams set at 0,0
n1 ported intake manifold and n1 throttle body
SSAC header 2.5 collector, 3" exhaust no cat
Gpsec 2 piece pullies
JWT lightweight flywheel
3" intake w/ jwt pop charger
e60 maf
Calum Realtime ECU tuned by me
The car made 196whp most likely due to the badly dented secondaries on the ssac header.
Car peaked power right at 7900 or 8k. Cant remember exactly. However the car still held over 180whp to 9000. These are facts.
Your friend made 196 at 7,900 rpm and 180 at 9,000, so lets do some math:
196 - 180 = 16 hp
His motor loss 16 hp. That doesn't sound like he was holding power. The torque and hp is nose diving. This is your own quote.
Originally Posted by 5speed Originally Posted by ashtonsser Usually n1's with good bolt ons to support it will still make power to 9-9200 rpm. All day long. My buddy was revving his stock spring and retainer ve w/ n1's to 9k all day long for several years and never had a problem. His motor and head are the block and head on my car right now. The pistons had no marks from valves touching or anything. And the motor saw probably 11k+ on a couple mis shifts when he had no rev limiter doing no lift shifts to 2nd and 3rd and missed gears. Again never had issues. It pulled on the dyno all the way to 9k as well without falling off power.
Originally Posted by ashtonsser N1 cams normally peak around 8100-8200 but they will hold really good power out to 9000-9200 depending on mods. A dyno is the only real place to get the most spot on rev limiter set that will give you the broadest powerband.
Most of your other statements I don't have a problem with. If your motor can hold the power than yes you can rev it out, otherwise it a waste and hard on the engine. You got the noobs thinking they can do the same.
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