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2009-06-25 23:40:48
#961
if he was such a stand up guy he wouldnt screw people around so much, isnt there people STILL waiting on they're headers from the first GB? i wouldnt spend money with this guy if he was the last aftermarket option in the world.. not only does he charge way to much, he doenst give people they're damn product until they beg an plead an eventually ask for a refund.. this is a free forum, i have every right to chime in whenever i want.. i agree he makes a damn nice header... WHEN HE DECIDEDS TO MAKE THEM.. he has some pretty bad business ethics..

start gb..
collect the $
make people wait months an months an months for something they paid ALOT of money for..

as much money as he's gettin out of you guys.. he could hire someone to help him.. he could atleast responde to people in a timely manner.. he dont even do that he just ignores everyone hoping they'll forget about it..

it takes money to make money, he had to spend time an cash R&Ding stuff so that he could sell it to us.. thats how u make money... which he's done pretty successfully.. i think he should do the right thing an give everyone what they paid for as soon as possible.. not next year..
2009-06-26 03:02:00
#962
it's amazing how forums are such a cesspool of negativity.

No matter what you do you'll never please everyone, the great thing about ASP is that they don't pay attention the the negativity of keyboard crusaders that don't have the time, money or knowledge to do anything but spew verbal diarrhea.

Those that actually spent money and believed in the product I am sorry for the long wait and I am 100% sure you will be taken care of. There are ways of reaching ASP and I hope you use those methods to communicate with those guys to get things straightened out.
2009-06-26 03:31:10
#963
Originally Posted by lynchfourtwenty
if he was such a stand up guy he wouldnt screw people around so much, isnt there people STILL waiting on they're headers from the first GB? i wouldnt spend money with this guy if he was the last aftermarket option in the world.. not only does he charge way to much, he doenst give people they're damn product until they beg an plead an eventually ask for a refund.. this is a free forum, i have every right to chime in whenever i want.. i agree he makes a damn nice header... WHEN HE DECIDEDS TO MAKE THEM.. he has some pretty bad business ethics..

start gb..
collect the $
make people wait months an months an months for something they paid ALOT of money for..

as much money as he's gettin out of you guys.. he could hire someone to help him.. he could atleast responde to people in a timely manner.. he dont even do that he just ignores everyone hoping they'll forget about it..

it takes money to make money, he had to spend time an cash R&Ding stuff so that he could sell it to us.. thats how u make money... which he's done pretty successfully.. i think he should do the right thing an give everyone what they paid for as soon as possible.. not next year..


You are exactly right, I am the biggest scam artist in the world. I do ignore everyone. I take everyones money and run off and hide and spend it. I actually dont do anything to help the forum I just try to make it a more miserable place for everyone...

I actually have all the parts to build 500 headers but I just feel like making people wait as long as possible to even think of making anything ( if i feel like it)

i actually never intended on making cams for the VE motor either. I was just hoping to collect 50 deposits of $500 and then send out stock sr20ve cams, or maybe honda B16 cams...
2009-06-26 03:51:42
#964
well maybe im an ass, but to see so many people whine an complain about your service i finally decided to stir the pot.

things you can work on.
-customer service
-orginization
-maybe hire some more help

honestly IMO it shouldnt take 3 months to get these headers out.. maybe if your the only one workin on them, but as much as your makin you should be able to offord to hire some help. the quicker u get stuff out the more you make in the long run.

im not the only one who thinks this, im just the only one with balls to speak up
2009-06-26 04:58:33
#965
Originally Posted by lynchfourtwenty
well maybe im an ass, but to see so many people whine an complain about your service i finally decided to stir the pot.

things you can work on.
-customer service
-orginization
-maybe hire some more help

honestly IMO it shouldnt take 3 months to get these headers out.. maybe if your the only one workin on them, but as much as your makin you should be able to offord to hire some help. the quicker u get stuff out the more you make in the long run.

im not the only one who thinks this, im just the only one with balls to speak up


I could really care less what you think and i know a lot of other people think that too....

If you know what it takes to try to setup a LARGE group buy and get all the materials custom made and paid for to get all this going, then you will understand more. Now throw a bug into the pot and have some parts not delivered or produced for 2 months that you are waiting on to get the parts finished and i guess that would set you back 2 months.

Maybe I should just go and buy the cheap ebay headers and resell those. I can get them from china 100 header sets at a time for $29 a header.... that would be easy money, but i dont see how that would be supporting the forum.

Sometimes somethings dont go as planned, but atleast I contribute and do try to add to the forum in a positive manor.

Also... the nissan crowd is probobly only 5% of my business and my sales. I spend more time on the K swapped hondas, RSX's the new SI, and 911 GT2/GT3's and a 911 turbo here and there.... thats where the money is... I actually dont make much money on these headers anyways. for the 2 hrs it takes me to make each header, the box it, do all the paper work involved, ship it, and do all the book keeping for each one, I probobly at most only profit $130 on each header if i'm lucky....

I can make the same header one at a time, tig weld them, make them all ceramic coated, top notch , built just like a nice SS header, but the cost would be double... you would get the header much faster, but I dont think people are willing to pay $500 MORE just to get their header in 2 weeks guaranteed...

either way... doesnt matter... I know in your eyes and many other forum members i'm just the one member trying to screw this place up....I cant help everyone, and I cant keep everyone happy... I just do what I can.
2009-06-26 05:05:45
#966
well dont let me stop ya dude, that last post was suppose to be constructive criticism.. maybe people are just whiners idk. you do make nice headers, as i said before im sure those who waited patiently with out filling the thread up with tears are VERY happy..
2009-06-27 05:56:12
#967
This is a cross post from g20.net. I thought some of you guys might want to see this.

I got my header today. There were some minor issues with the install. The header didn't sit flush against the engine and needed a little grinding to fit. Not really a big deal, but it seems as though it could have been avoided.

Also, my O2 bung was moved down near the vband. This actually ended up working out nicely. I didn't have to lengthen the O2 sensor wires, I just pulled it out of the wire loom a little bit and ran it down there.

The egr blocked off nicely with a nickel, like someone here told me it would.

The rear O2 sensor is just sitting zip tied up near the engine. Anyone know if it would cause problems if I just unplugged it? I already have a service engine soon light, so I am not worried about that.

I have the stock exhaust, and honestly, it sounds pretty raspy. I think I may have a little leak at the v band. I'll check into that soon.
2009-06-27 16:36:46
#968
Snickers, just ignore the destructive criticism. Just do what you can, and maybe hiring one or two knowledgeable guys should be considered. I don't think it would cost you that much money and you should be able to afford it since you're making K series and 911 headers. If you don't trust anyone else I understand. BTW I did paypal the full amount including shipping. I understand that this could take awhile.

Dave
2009-06-27 17:03:04
#969
be good to see some more dyno results from people with these headers, lots of people on the lists and only seen a couple so far
2009-06-27 19:46:45
#970
WOW

Charles - please ignore the thumbsuckers

That is all
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