Thread: MSPNP or Nismotronic

I'd like to see these great results you speak on. Nismotronic offers the same feature set as a mspnp at a fraction of the cost all while retaining oem ecu. For a lot of people who aren't building all out drag cars Nismotronic is preferable. I can't speak on the support and cs behind the product as well. There is much more behind a product then just the unit itself!

Is Nismotronic considered a reflashed ECU nowadays? :P

Back on topic:
If you are unsure about using old hardware, start by doing a visual check. The thing that can go wrong with our ECU's are burnt injector drivers(from using wrong impedance injectors), or bad caps. Caps are easy to replace, injector drivers more tricky. A visual check quickly tells you in what shape your ECU is. Look for corrosion on the circuit board (moisture getting into the ECU is more likely to happen with a t-top NX) or leaking capacitors.

Corrosion:
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Leaking/bulging capacitors:
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If everything checks out, your ECU is good to go. These ECU's will operate for a longer period of time than most people think Even longer if you periodically inspect it.

Also your speaking about pushing the nissan fwd platform above and beyond yet you are speaking down on a product that performs really that was designed specifically for us. Sorry I rather use a product designed specifically for my platform versus a universal product. MS is awesome, no doubt I've seen it in action and watched a good friend of mines build one for his boosted e36 years ago. But I'm a product designed specifically for my platform > Mspnp.

Well I have had to clean corrosion out of my ecu because of a leaking seal on the firewall that I finally found. Want hard to do. Going to go through it all under a magnifying lamp and get it spotless when I install the nismotronic board. Then I'm going to coat the whole inside with a silicone conformal coating so it can never get any moisture on it again.

+1 on conformal coating, all of our boards at work are coated and can stand up to quite a bit. Conformal can be found in arosole for easy application for any looking into it.

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Yes I see your point on the age of the car.. But really has nothing to do with the chassis itself.. Me and Frank (Lurkzone) gutted all wiring of his car and put in a new BCM and ECU on a 20yr old chassis has nothing to do with the chassis .. I am confused though on what you mean one is cheaper/purpose built and all that!! Please explain that part in more detail because There are LOTS of MS's that are PNP and are more cost effective too then other solutions with more features ... Also I make them 100% plugNplay for P11 ... I also wounder why you would say you would never use one on your/a P11 ?? I wounder what misconceptions or if there is something I am overlooking??

#1 .. I build PNP units for $550 .. I think that is less then Nismotronic . I also include the installation and tuning on it as well with that price.... You bring the car you leave super happy or your money back...
#2 Same features it does not.. MS has way more features then Nismotronic .. NOT EVEN CLOSE ... Wideband per port /EGT Per Port with trim control and EGT unsafe level shuts down engine / Fully progressive NOS control or multi stage fuel added via injectors / Return-less fuel system with pressure sensor that can monitor and adjust fuel pressure in the rail on a PWM Pump / Oil presure sensor that can create a table of acceptable oil pressure for given RPM & Load because 35PSI at 8000RPM is bad and will shut down the engine and MS also has its own CEL that will let you know what was tripped as you can define your own CEL variables ... So I think MS does a bit more then others.. Thats only scratching the surface too.. Alot more it can do .. We can also tune on MAF/MAP,Alpha-N or ITB (simulated switch points) and blend any one if you want to use MAF and MAP for example at the same time.

#3 As far as support goes .. When it comes to Propitiatory solutions such as AEM,Haltech,Nistune,Nismotronic if something goes wrong you have to goto the only source... MS there are thousands of providers as its an open platform much like Open Source .. You can download the source code if you wish and all hardware diagrams and BOM are available.. So if someone doesn't like my support they have options .. You don't get that anywhere else .. So with that said others can't even start to compare tell they release there source code & hardware diagrams ..

I could care less about selling MS.. Its not what I do for a living.. I own my own IT Firm and that's my income (Far more then I could ever make doing car stuff) .. With that said hardware hacking is in my blood and I love to teach what I know.. So if anyone anytime wants to learn just let me know.

Could or Could not because there is a rather large difference if you mean could.

No misconception or overlooking anything. The P11 is not something I plan to go so far as to need a MS. Well the kits you sell are cheaper than the ones DIYautotune sells by far! But your price seems spot on with the nismotronic. I personally have no qualms about using a chipped OEM ecu. Its dirt cheap, and loading an modifying bins is super easy, although support has pretty much dropped to nil.

I guess my point if anyone wants to do a 2000 to 2002 p11 there is no option except megasquirt.. Unless you swap all kinds of stuff down to a 99. But I can do them without changing anything under the hood earlier computers didn't have stepper motor control is why I say this..