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2012-09-26 13:18:20
#51
I need a few more clues. Try disabling O2 ("Misc" tab, "Sensors" group, "O2 Enabled" check box) and let me know if that solves the issue. Please record a log of your test.

Thanks,
Dave
2012-09-26 13:57:57
#52
Originally Posted by dave_f
My K value is 62412 with Z32 ans STIs
I am also having a wierd cold tune issue... i havent tried adjusting the ECT TPS Enrich Factor table yet... I was focusing on ECT Enrich table on the fuel adjust tab with limited sucsess.
-dave


Originally Posted by LikeTheMovies
Originally Posted by Vadim
Originally Posted by blo0d
could it be related to your large k value?


My K value is at a stock ~33,000. This is from a DET, your thinking of my VET. When I had the E60 MAF on the VET I had the same stock K value too and it was fine (No sputter)


My K value is at 64000 with stis and Z32 maf.



oh, so its typical to run the z32 and "small" injectors at ~64000 K values
2012-09-26 14:09:47
#53
Originally Posted by dfddfd2
I need a few more clues. Try disabling O2 ("Misc" tab, "Sensors" group, "O2 Enabled" check box) and let me know if that solves the issue. Please record a log of your test.

Thanks,
Dave


No O2 sensor here, also disabled in tune. I got some logs for you that I'll shoot your way tonight.

Originally Posted by blo0d

oh, so its typical to run the z32 and "small" injectors at ~64000 K values


The higher flowing the MAF, the higher the K value. The bigger the Injectors the lower the K value. This is why running 370-500cc injectors with a medium flowing maf, E60, your K value will be very close to stock value of ~30,000.
2012-09-26 14:22:33
#54
So Big MAF and Big injectors would keep close to stock? I thought 600cc injectors (sti@4bar) was a decent size lol
2012-09-26 14:30:00
#55
Originally Posted by LikeTheMovies
So Big MAF and Big injectors would keep close to stock? I thought 600cc injectors (sti@4bar) was a decent size lol


Much bigger, so think of it almost in WHP values. E60 maf is good for ~300 whp, while 370-420 (4bar) is good for 290whp, so they technically equal out. Z32 maf is good for 500whp, find injectors that are good for that amount and you might have a K value close to stock.

Keep in mind K value is not a big deal anymore with current injector size. With Z32 maf I kept K value at stock ~30,000 value. It meant that -25 Hg to 0 psi was only 20 TP apart, where on E60 maf it was 70 TP apart, that's because of much less down low resolution on Z32 maf. Now that my K value is at 64,000, I'm at 50 TP between -25 Hq and 0 psi.
2012-09-26 14:46:44
#56
Originally Posted by Vadim
No O2 sensor here, also disabled in tune. I got some logs for you that I'll shoot your way tonight.


Yes, please do! Thanks!

Originally Posted by Vadim
The higher flowing the MAF, the higher the K value. The bigger the Injectors the lower the K value. This is why running 370-500cc injectors with a medium flowing maf, E60, your K value will be very close to stock value of ~30,000.


This is exactly the reason I added the injector size parameter to TunerCode.
You use higher K with a larger MAF to correct (increase) the load calculation to keep your load scale consistent.
You use injector size to correct IPW (decrease) with larger injectors.

Dave
2012-09-26 21:28:57
#57
Originally Posted by Vadim

Originally Posted by blo0d

oh, so its typical to run the z32 and "small" injectors at ~64000 K values


The higher flowing the MAF, the higher the K value. The bigger the Injectors the lower the K value. This is why running 370-500cc injectors with a medium flowing maf, E60, your K value will be very close to stock value of ~30,000.


thats what i said (wasnt a question)
2012-09-26 22:44:36
#58
Originally Posted by blo0d

thats what i said (wasnt a question)


Indeed I was just adding on to it
2012-09-28 21:18:49
#59
I have the same issue - when engine is cold, it runs poor compared to when its heated up.
I read on the nistune forum that some guys with RB and CA engines had the same problem and got it fixed by increasing the timing (in a certain enrichment table). Never had a chance to deal with it but I will give it a shot in the coming days and will let you know if it changes a thing.
Last edited by martin7937 on 2012-09-28 at 21-19-14.
2012-09-29 00:47:18
#60
The tune I was using I thought was OEM base, but it was my attempt at an Avenir replica with USDM base code.

Right now my b15 is down, but I rebuilt the tune on B13 base and will try it again. Avenir code had a lot less fuel in a lot of areas, so I can see why it would be complaining.
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