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Thread: Looking for guidance on SR20VE tune with SR16 pistons 13.7:1 comp

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2012-07-25 20:54:19
#11
Originally Posted by Nicoxis


OK, so if I'm undersanding the basics, this would be the process to get realtime tuning,

- Get an ostrich 2.0 with Tunerpro RT (175+39 at moates.net)
- Get the Eeprom out of my ECU and put ostrich in it's place
- Load XDF and base bin to start tuning (can I get these files from anywhere? or are they included in the tunerpro RT package?)
- After tuning is done, burn the final eeprom to replace ostrich.

Is this right?


You would need two ostriches .. your ECU uses 2 x 32kb chips so you would need to emulate both of them. So, that ends up being $350 JUST for the dual ostrich setup.

You would then need a chip programer (Moates.net Burn2 for example), they range around $90-100 shipped.

You will also need a consult cable .. depending on where you go could range from $50-100.

And you are still using restricted to the stock firmware and it's limitations.

We offer a FULL pacakge, hardware, software, ecu firmware, which allows you to do everything you are looking for. There is no looking for XDF files or guessing if what you are using is correct or not .. everything is right there for you in the software!

It is listed here.

http://www.sr20-forum.com/nismotronic/53592-nemu-realtime-tuning-packages.html
2012-07-25 21:06:31
#12
Originally Posted by JKTUNING


We offer a FULL pacakge, hardware, software, ecu firmware, which allows you to do everything you are looking for. There is no looking for XDF files or guessing if what you are using is correct or not .. everything is right there for you in the software!

It is listed here.

http://www.sr20-forum.com/nismotronic/53592-nemu-realtime-tuning-packages.html


And I could still use my current ECU ?

Would that be plug and play, or do I need additional software or licenses?

Would I still need a eeprom burner after I finish tuning and disconnect the RT package?

Thanks!
2012-07-26 05:56:29
#13
Nico, you will need a RealTime ECU. For fine tunning, your daughterboard, you have to burn the chip over and over to get to the "final" setup.
I sold my Nismotronic Non Realtime for that reason, i preffer to do my own setting for my mods, its better than a "copied" setting for more than one engine...and also our 97 oct isn´t the same 97 that in other countries (Chilean fuel SUCKS), it's like 93, or even 91.....crappy fuel.

Greetings!

PD: Nico soy el Esteban! jajjaja
2012-07-26 12:57:53
#14
Originally Posted by Nicoxis
Originally Posted by JKTUNING


We offer a FULL pacakge, hardware, software, ecu firmware, which allows you to do everything you are looking for. There is no looking for XDF files or guessing if what you are using is correct or not .. everything is right there for you in the software!

It is listed here.

http://www.sr20-forum.com/nismotronic/53592-nemu-realtime-tuning-packages.html


And I could still use my current ECU ?

Would that be plug and play, or do I need additional software or licenses?

Would I still need a eeprom burner after I finish tuning and disconnect the RT package?

Thanks!


You could still use your current ECU with the NismoTronic package. The only thing you will need to do is solder 3 wires to the ECU pins

Found here.

NismoTronic Help - Installation

The board/software is plug n play.. everything is included to get you up and running. You will be provided with a NEMU license key and a software license key.

With a realtime ECU, you will no longer need to burn any chips. The changes you make to the tune stay on the ECU after you are done tuning!
2012-07-26 13:07:36
#15
I think without doubt nismotronic/nemu/tunercode is the best option for features/$$$ available for nissan tuning, not only that but john and dave are right there when you need any help, and when tunercode v6 comes later in the year things will get even better as the new firmware brings the package ever closer to the features of the available standalone ecu's!
Last edited by happyharrysco1 on 2012-07-26 at 13-09-38.
2012-07-26 15:27:06
#16
Originally Posted by dempyel
Nico, you will need a RealTime ECU. For fine tunning, your daughterboard, you have to burn the chip over and over to get to the "final" setup.
I sold my Nismotronic Non Realtime for that reason, i preffer to do my own setting for my mods, its better than a "copied" setting for more than one engine...and also our 97 oct isn´t the same 97 that in other countries (Chilean fuel SUCKS), it's like 93, or even 91.....crappy fuel.

Greetings!

PD: Nico soy el Esteban! jajjaja


Well, it looks like everything points in that direction, I just wanted to know what alternatives I had (for realtime, that's why I was looking at the ostrich emulator).

About the fuel, it's not that it sucks, it's just that we use the RON octane rating and others use MON or AKI. Our 95 rating is equivalent to 85–86 MON or 90–91 AKI.

I wish we had something closer to 100

pd: weeenaa!! jajaja
2012-07-26 15:53:43
#17
Originally Posted by JKTUNING
Originally Posted by Nicoxis
Originally Posted by JKTUNING


We offer a FULL pacakge, hardware, software, ecu firmware, which allows you to do everything you are looking for. There is no looking for XDF files or guessing if what you are using is correct or not .. everything is right there for you in the software!

It is listed here.

http://www.sr20-forum.com/nismotronic/53592-nemu-realtime-tuning-packages.html


And I could still use my current ECU ?

Would that be plug and play, or do I need additional software or licenses?

Would I still need a eeprom burner after I finish tuning and disconnect the RT package?

Thanks!


You could still use your current ECU with the NismoTronic package. The only thing you will need to do is solder 3 wires to the ECU pins

Found here.

NismoTronic Help - Installation

The board/software is plug n play.. everything is included to get you up and running. You will be provided with a NEMU license key and a software license key.

With a realtime ECU, you will no longer need to burn any chips. The changes you make to the tune stay on the ECU after you are done tuning!


OK, so this is probably the best way to go.

About the TunerCode V6 update that happyharry was talking about, is it upgradable on the RT package?
2012-07-26 18:19:31
#18
Another question, how does Nismotronic stand against similar solutions like NIStune ?

Thanks!
2012-07-26 21:14:14
#19
yes v6 will be an upgrade to the RT nismotronic package, as tunercode is the custom firmware that the nemu runs and nismotronic tunes

as for comparison imo at the minute nismotronic package has the slight edge in features over nistune, and in the future that slight edge will be a gulf, but do some reading and make your own decision

current and future nismotronic features >>
NEMU RT PACAKGE
http://www.sr20-forum.com/tunercode/48637-tunercode-feature-suggestions-feedback.html#post641247

nistune features
NIStune - Realtime ECU Tuning

jfyi i'm currently building a similar engine to yours, mine is currently a 16ve but i'm building a 20ve bottom end for it just now, though my end cr will be about 12.5-13:1 as i'm using cp 12.5:1 pistons, and of the available options i chose the nismotronic/tunercode/nemu rt package
2012-07-26 21:34:31
#20
Originally Posted by Nicoxis
Another question, how does Nismotronic stand against similar solutions like NIStune ?

Thanks!


TunerCode logging is by far the best OEM logging structure available (it isn't stock consult format).

TunerCode also adds extra features like set launch (launch control), spark (ignition cut) rev limit, overboost protection for all ROMs, user outputs for use with VVL solenoids, nitrous, etc .. the list goes on!

The NEMU RT board gives you 4 additional ADC input channels, without using any additional hardware .. to get this with a nistune board you would have to run a separate piece of hardware to the laptop.

The NEMU board also has onboard storage capabilities, which allows you to log directly to the NEMU board without the laptop .. then you can pull the logs when you get back to the pits or back home after a long drive and review them.

When we have V6 or the "SA" version ready we will surely let you guys know and have a full feature set posted!
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