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2010-01-21 13:48:02
#41
Originally Posted by unijabnx2000
When i change from MAF to map/iat, where should i put them?

in the intake plenum or in the charge piping before TB?
I've got this one as well Dan.

MAP stands for Manifold Absolute Pressure. That should give it away right there. =]
You need the MAP sensor to get a signal downstream from the throttle body which usually means the intake manifold. The IAT sensor should be as close to the MAP sensor signal possible, but putting it on the other side of the throttle body is fine and very common practice.
2010-01-21 13:49:35
#42
Originally Posted by Scrildo
How about if I data log cruising speeds and a WOT pull and you guys see if you can clean it up for me so I can drive down there?!!?
Absolutely. I've done this for forum members in the past and I feel I'm getting pretty good at it. It may take a few iterations but I should be able to get you running much better if we e-mail Calibration files back and forth.
PM me for my e-mail address.
2010-01-21 14:53:06
#43
Ben, would you be willing to do this for me for a fee or any sort? I'm going to focus on all of this as soon as I get my wideband and N60 installed in the next week or two. I just need to purchase NDS so I can do some map logging. Or do you have any other program recommendations?
2010-01-21 14:59:08
#44
I can't help you with Calum or NIStune stuff over e-mail. I'm not comfortable enough with it (I've actually never tuned with it yet) to tune over e-mail. I know everyone assumes I'm good with that sort of thing. I'm not. Not yet. =(
Dan has even less experience.
We by-passed all that and went straight to stand-alones a couple years ago and leapfrogged the daughter board stuff. I'm learning as I go, but I'm not going to feel comfortable unless I have it in front of me.
2010-01-21 15:27:14
#45
Any specific map/iat sensor combo i should use for my AEM EMS?
2010-01-21 15:38:42
#46
AEM sells MAP sensors with varying ranges. Their 3.5 bar MAP sensor is very popular and a no-brainer for those planning on running less than 36.25 psi (which I'm guessing includes you). I believe it is around $150.

If you'd like there are cheaper options that are just as good.

The venerable GM 3-bar MAP sensor is popular. $65 and good for up to 29 psi.
GM 3 Bar MAP Sensor DIYAutoTune.com

Then for $28 you can get a 2.5-bar MAP sensor good for around 21 psi.
MPX4250AP MAP Sensor DIYAutoTune.com


I believe AEM has calibrations available in their software for all three of those sensors.


As for the IAT sensor, everyone just uses these: GM Open Element IAT Sensor with Connector DIYAutoTune.com
MPX4250AP MAP Sensor DIYAutoTune.com
2010-01-21 19:13:20
#47
Originally Posted by BenFenner
I can't help you with Calum or NIStune stuff over e-mail. I'm not comfortable enough with it (I've actually never tuned with it yet) to tune over e-mail. I know everyone assumes I'm good with that sort of thing. I'm not. Not yet. =(
Dan has even less experience.
We by-passed all that and went straight to stand-alones a couple years ago and leapfrogged the daughter board stuff. I'm learning as I go, but I'm not going to feel comfortable unless I have it in front of me.


Although I've never done Calum or NIStune, I've done my share of MAF tuning with Mustangs.

I'm willing to help you out.
2010-01-21 19:16:46
#48
Originally Posted by BenFenner
AEM sells MAP sensors with varying ranges. Their 3.5 bar MAP sensor is very popular and a no-brainer for those planning on running less than 36.25 psi (which I'm guessing includes you). I believe it is around $150.

If you'd like there are cheaper options that are just as good.

The venerable GM 3-bar MAP sensor is popular. $65 and good for up to 29 psi.
GM 3 Bar MAP Sensor DIYAutoTune.com

Then for $28 you can get a 2.5-bar MAP sensor good for around 21 psi.
MPX4250AP MAP Sensor DIYAutoTune.com


I believe AEM has calibrations available in their software for all three of those sensors.


As for the IAT sensor, everyone just uses these: GM Open Element IAT Sensor with Connector DIYAutoTune.com
MPX4250AP MAP Sensor DIYAutoTune.com


I noticed on AEM's website they offer a brass MAP sensor for about 1/3 the price of the other one....
2010-01-21 19:22:25
#49
Yes, I see that too. Check the AEM forums to see if anyone is using them. AEM doesn't make sensors "in house" so its just something they found thats cheaper. I can't comment on quality since I don't have any direct experience with the brass units. I have however used everything on the DIYAutoTune site, and it all works great.
2010-01-21 19:24:11
#50
thanks
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