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2010-05-25 17:15:01

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awesome! thanks Matt

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2010-05-27 17:03:25

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Is there a Nistune RT ......?

A friend is sell to me a Nistune RT and he told me is like this one

I need some help about it...........

also the ecu doesn`t have the consult cable, is that a problem ...?
The price for the ecu is $280,

so somebody help me

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2010-05-27 17:17:59

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That's not a Nistune Realtime board in that. It's just a rom board that you have to burn chips.
This is what the nistune real time Type 3 looks like in the B13 ecu.

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2010-05-27 22:56:41

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sounds like your friend is tryin to rip you off... just get your nistune from autovaughn.. theres a thread alllll about it an if you look in the product reviews section you will find it

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2010-05-28 06:37:37

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thanks a lot for your help

so, I`m going to save a little more of money , I`m going to buy a Nistune board from autovaughn

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2010-05-28 07:47:11

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send them your ecu an have them install the board for you.. an its best to get the package deal so you get the program and cable

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2010-05-31 17:25:23

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Just read this today. Anyone have any idea of what going to happen to the relationship between Nistune and TunerCode now that Calum is out of business?

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2010-05-31 22:22:23

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Who knows.

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2010-06-01 19:02:18

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Originally Posted by darkhalf

Hey guys I'm jumping on this thread pages too late (!) but anyway

Dave wrote:

This is correct because the calum boards have an onboard micro which programs the memory on the board via the USB connector, all changes are made through via micro which looks like a moates emulator to the laptop.

Our Nistune boards use the base image programmer to upload the entire memory initially to get the ECU program (with modified consult code on there)

After that the modified consult implementation allows for data changes on the board. I usually restrict the changes in the firmware to just the map area so nothing gets screwed up in the ECU code area. There is a special firmware version to change any value on the board, but only to those who know what they are doing :-)

We preferred to keep our boards simple for cost wise, as a next step up from an EPROM board without the extra cost and complexity of fitting other components. The NVsRAM board ideas used previously on Hondas were a great idea to start from and have proven to be effective with even 16 bit Nissan ECUs

It also works well for workshops since they just use the single cable on multiple ECUs via the standard port.

Any functional BIN file can be converted to an ENT file, hence my previous posting about emailing the BIN file (before being informed of tunercode licence conditions which were not explicitly available in writing at the time of making that post)

There is two parts to the ENT file processing, one is to modify the 0xc9 Rom Read consult command to a Nistune command to allow writing, burning and pin locking on the board. The other bit is the scrambler

As long as the consult code has not been modified where my autopatcher cannot recognise and repatch the firmware, then there is not a problem. However I believe some parts of tunercode may have modified consult so it may not patch without reverting the consult code back to original implementation. If that can be worked around then it can be patched and run like other custom BIN files done in the past

Probably not totally true, you still would have realtime tuning capability through Nistune software on your laptop, but any special consult tricks would have to be removed to get it to an ENT would have to be replaced with something equivalent

Dave has posted on the eccs forums that he is still working with calum on something. So thats good news, given he has invested a great amount of time on that project.

Reverse engineering and rewriting ECU code is not a small task by any means. Being able to strip down and recompile to something more tuneable like a PowerFC is a fantastic idea, but at the same time its a lot of work and each ECU approached would be a custom job. I wanted to make a one fits all approach with the firmware/patcher so I could throw it at anything and it would work. Just different ways of doing things

Like calums work Nistune started as a hobby but I've worked it as a business, and provide as much support as humanly possible whilst still having a life, family and full time day job. Its a tough mix but having others working with myself such as PLMS who builds our boards, and distributors like Andy from AVP has made things more manageable without burning out just yet... but I'm hoping to be full time by the end of the year and it would be great to work with Dave when hes free up to do a Nistune equivalent of tunercode

That's matt from nistune ^^

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2010-06-07 01:48:51

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Just started playing with my Nistune and so far its great. Is there a consult function in there anywhere to switch the car into timing mode or do I need to download Datascan also?

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