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2010-02-18 18:48:19
#81
Originally Posted by lynchfourtwenty
fyi the v2 is 450.. or atleast thats what i was quoted..


You're right. But the v1 is 350.

Look, Calum pretty much made a HUGE impact when introducing his boards to the sr20forums... EVERYONE and their mommas were on his boards. (myself included). If I could have gotten ahold of Calum earlier, I would have definately gone with his boards.

I had the pleasure to meet him at SERCA 08. He's a damn great guy that started explaining stuff to me like he knew me. Now that's what's up! BUT... He is only doing this as a hobby which I understand. He has a life outside of his hobby which doesn't always revolve around engine management. But then again, he did leave a lot of people waiting for him for months and that isn't cool. I could not wait for him like the guys that are still currently waiting for him. I need my car to be tuned and running the way I want it to.

I reached out to an alternative which IMO are the best damn boards for the buck and for the time (1 week turnaround). Nistune has so many capabilities to list. Once I get it on the dyno, I'll post up dyno sheets and vids and pics. If someone is reading this right now and needs a good rt board, Do yourself a favor and go with Nistune.
2010-02-18 18:52:32
#82
I got my Nistune last week, sent my ECU off to Matt he had it in his possesion for a whole day! It was back in my hand a week later ready to go, shame my engine isn't.

I was in contact with Calum around 12 months ago, and he said my UKDM N15 ECU wasn't compatible with anything he had....Whether he has now found a way round this I don't know...but he didn't seem too interested seeing as it would of been a one off.
2010-02-18 18:53:19
#83
calum = hobby

nistune = Actual Business

check out the nistune forums, lots of folks there, an matt is always QUICK to responde..
2010-02-18 18:58:42
#84
Originally Posted by lynchfourtwenty
nistune = Actual Business


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2010-02-18 18:59:32
#85
Originally Posted by blusteelsr20
Damn, I need Tunercode.... Is it available now or is it still in the testing stage? Cliff, you have been testing Tunercode and it has a sh*tload of features that takes tuning to a whole new level. Glad Tunercode is compatible with both RTv1 & v2 ecus.


Tunercode is available with any new calum OBDI ECU purchase. It is not yet available for OBDII, but it's close. I have indeed been testing with it, and it's the shizniz. I'm getting ready to pipe my boost sensor and wideband into the ECU for datalogging in TunerPro RT. Then I can go back and look at not only AFR and boost, but timing, fuel, etc. etc. etc. It will turn what's normally a two man street tuning operation into a one man street tuning operation. No need for a dyno to tune, IMO.

Originally Posted by lynchfourtwenty
lol, ok so what im saying is: the nistune isnt "tunable" past 8012.5 correct? while nistune Could implement the tunercode stuff, they havent but hopefully some kind of agreement can be made or something.. that would be awesome! so, the rtv2s with tunercode can be "tunable" past 8012.5 Correct?

i didnt actually mean the engine wouldnt turn past 8k lol sry for the confusion..

dave, if a person were to pay you, and or nistune, would it be possible to get the tunercode stuff on the nistune ecu? or?


Nistune and Tunercode are incompatible. They do not communicate alike. RTv2's, RTv1's, and basics can all be tuned beyond 8012.5rpm, up to 12,500RPM. I don't honestly see anyone needing anything higher than 12.5Krpm right now. There's been a few threads on the other forum that explain the difference between a Nistune and Calum ECU.

Originally Posted by jagy
Really? Who got Calum V2 here? How long we were waiting? And how much it took to get it?

You can have Nistune in one week...

Im not bashing Calum, but Nistune is just better, faster, cheaper.


I have an RTv2 ECU. It took Calum around 4 weeks, give or take a few days. It cost $450. The reason behind the cost is because the Tunercode software isn't free. You're paying $100 in order to support Dave Dunn with his Tunercode efforts, which are WELL worth it IMO. Dave's gone through great strides to really get into the nitty gritty with the Nissan ECU. Think of him as the mad scientist that took some hardware and made it do more than before.

Originally Posted by lynchfourtwenty
fyi the v2 is 450.. or atleast thats what i was quoted..


Correct.
2010-02-18 20:09:07
#86
Originally Posted by Cliff


Nistune and Tunercode are incompatible. They do not communicate alike. RTv2's, RTv1's, and basics can all be tuned beyond 8012.5rpm, up to 12,500RPM. I don't honestly see anyone needing anything higher than 12.5Krpm right now. There's been a few threads on the other forum that explain the difference between a Nistune and Calum ECU.



Matt/Nistune said they can be made to work.

Originally Posted by darkhalf
If your ECU is upto 1995 then we can do (Type 4) B14 SR20DE ECUs no problems. This is listed on our boards page at NIStune - Nissan Realtime ECU tuning

The later model 1996+ ECUs I'm still working on. Those later model ECUs have the OBD-II code in separate memory, so we are working on a OBD-II version of the Type 4 board which is compatible with 1996+ ECUs.

(We have the board layout ready and getting quotes for prototypes to be built at the moment)

A few people have asked me if Nistune boards would support TunerCode ECU extensions and the answer here is that I see no reason why we cant. We would just take the TunerCode BIN file and add our realtime tuning consult extensions to the firmware and then program it to the board

However it wont have the auxillary I/O boards that the Calum 2.0 RT boards are capable of, but all the other things like switching stuff off and RPM extension will work in any board. Hope that helps!

matt


Also, only the RT version 2 allow tuning above 8,000. It's a firmware thing. We have already proved the basic and the RT version 1 can't tune above 8K.
2010-02-18 20:16:04
#87
Originally Posted by 5speed
Matt/Nistune said they can be made to work.



Also, only the RT version 2 allow tuning above 8,000. It's a firmware thing. We have already proved the basic and the RT version 1 can't tune above 8K.


Dave Dunn (Tunercode creator) states otherwise. As for the RTv1 and basic, if you're using the tunercode for the bin, it can indeed be tuned above 8012.5rpm. You obviously need to change the scales of your maps as well.
2010-02-18 20:26:23
#88
Firmware is programmed into the board. It's not in the software.

You have to send in the old board in order for it to be programmed.
2010-02-18 20:29:12
#89
I think you're missing the point. The Tunercode software allows you to modify more areas of the firmware that haven't previously been usable, if that makes any sense?
2010-02-18 20:56:03
#90
Originally Posted by 5speed
Matt/Nistune said they can be made to work.


yep, the thing is he an dave have to come to some sort of agreement or something..

heres my .02, if i were dave i'd be workin with nistune instead of calum, Why? Because they're an actual business, plus they have the support ect... not to mention people with nistune are tuning z31's z32's an skylines an all kinds of stuff.. what do most people use calum ecu's to tune? b13s/14s an 240sx's i think alot of people could benifit from them workin together..

(an im not sayin he should cut off calum, just sayin he should Also work with nistune)

thats my .02 hope no one takes offense, not tryin to start a brush fire..
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