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2010-01-29 15:52:45
#21
Originally Posted by dfddfd2
Actually, if you purchase TunerCode, you can run it on any one single daughter board you want, provided you can physically download the bin to it.

My understanding of Nistune is that you can't actually download a bin other than a Nistune encoded ENT file to the Nistune daughter board. Therefore you can't run TunerCode on a Nistune daughter board. Also, I don't think the Nistune daughter board supports emulation, so real-time programming would not be possible without running a Nistune ENT bin.

Dave


Sweet! Thanks Dave I didn't know of this information. When initially researching, I was told and therefore under the impression that TunerCode was limited to Calum's hardware.
2010-01-29 15:58:24
#22
Originally Posted by dfddfd2
Actually, if you purchase TunerCode, you can run it on any one single daughter board you want, provided you can physically download the bin to it.

My understanding of Nistune is that you can't actually download a bin other than a Nistune encoded ENT file to the Nistune daughter board, and I think you need another piece of hardware called a "Base Image Programmer" to do it. Therefore you can't run TunerCode on a Nistune daughter board. Also, I don't think the Nistune daughter board supports emulation, so real-time programming would not be possible without running a Nistune ENT bin.
Dave


^So with the NIStune ENT bin how do you think their RT compares to the Calum RT?
2010-01-29 16:09:25
#23
I think you'd need to look at everything with side by side comparison.
2010-01-29 16:24:47
#24
Originally Posted by Cliff
Sweet! Thanks Dave I didn't know of this information. When initially researching, I was told and therefore under the impression that TunerCode was limited to Calum's hardware.


I should add that the TunerCode license agreement prohibits transferring or sharing any of the TunerCode files. Therefore Matt's (darkhalf) suggestion to email the TunerCode bin would be a violation of the license agreement. Matt and I have discussed implementing TunerCode functionality for Nistune daughter boards, but that's on hold temporarily until I get TunerCode for the B14 implemented. More information on this is available on the Nistune forum here: http://forum.nistune.com/viewtopic.php?t=1271

Dave
2010-01-29 16:28:03
#25
Originally Posted by dfddfd2
I should add that the TunerCode license agreement prohibits transferring or sharing any of the TunerCode files. Therefore Matt's (darkhalf) suggestion to email the TunerCode bin would be a violation of the license agreement. Matt and I have discussed implementing TunerCode functionality for Nistune daughter boards, but that's on hold temporarily until I get TunerCode for the B14 implemented.

Dave


This I am definitely aware of
2010-01-29 16:47:01
#26
Nistune offer realtime and basic too. It works with Nistune software and propably others.
I have 2 friends running their realtime actually. One P10 Low port, second P11 Roller Rocker.
2010-01-29 17:01:24
#27
Originally Posted by jagy
Nistune offer realtime and basic too. It works with Nistune software and propably others.
I have 2 friends running their realtime actually. One P10 Low port, second P11 Roller Rocker.


^I remember us discussing this. I'm trying to get some feedback on how these guys like it. More than likely, I'll be running NIStune. as it seem to have great features from what the YouTube VID shows.
2010-01-29 19:01:42
#28
After reading the Nistune site, here are the conclusions I have come up with.

- You will have to solder in the 2x20 header for the daughterboard connection, not a big deal
- Their is a base ent file that is for your motor, and you use Nistune to tune that image, if you want another ent file, you will have to get the base image programmer and burn a new chip (that is totally wack)

My expectations of tuning software and ecu would be something that has realtime tuning and lets me change what file I have on the chip directly through the consult cable. So from my understanding, Calum realtime lets you do that. No swapping of chips, so I can tune my JDM SR20DE and then when I finish my GTIR motor, swap the bin files and tune for that.

To me that is what sucks about Nistune, you have to swap chips, and are limited to how many ecu's you tune. You are allowed 5 different ecu's with the single user edition software. Very ***. I guess I will have to wait for Calum.
2010-01-29 19:05:15
#29
wow, thats not good
2010-01-29 19:10:03
#30
Originally Posted by drifterx27
After reading the Nistune site, here are the conclusions I have come up with.

- You will have to solder in the 2x20 header for the daughterboard connection, not a big deal
- Their is a base ent file that is for your motor, and you use Nistune to tune that image, if you want another ent file, you will have to get the base image programmer and burn a new chip (that is totally wack)

My expectations of tuning software and ecu would be something that has realtime tuning and lets me change what file I have on the chip directly through the consult cable. So from my understanding, Calum realtime lets you do that. No swapping of chips, so I can tune my JDM SR20DE and then when I finish my GTIR motor, swap the bin files and tune for that.

To me that is what sucks about Nistune, you have to swap chips, and are limited to how many ecu's you tune. You are allowed 5 different ecu's with the single user edition software. Very ***. I guess I will have to wait for Calum.


^Shoot! That's not RT if you have to switch chips like that. That's the whole point of having a RT. Who on the dash is using a NIStune RT? Chime in and reply to the post please. I thought I read it right, but I wanted to do more reading before I asked. I wasn't sure how they went about the chip part.
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