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2009-08-25 19:40:38
#31
Originally Posted by dfddfd2
The problem is that when the speed gets above the LC speed set point (default 10 kph), the timing doesn't change, ie: the timing map lookup is skipped. Launch control with speed limit, rev limit, and rev hysteresis, will be a feature in the TunerCode firmware.



How can you tune from 370s to 550s by changing only the latency?

Cheers,
Dave


what's the deal with this tunercode?? never heard of it. You know your stuff though i'll give you that.

He was referring to a bin file that we've been working on for a while now. 520's, n62 maf, sr20det. I had to ask the subaru guys what the latency was on the injectors so that we could even get the tune in the ballpark. I've got one that works pretty good on my car, just need to finish the wideband up to get it tweaked right.

set up is listed below.
2009-08-25 20:00:55
#32
Originally Posted by LikeTheMovies
latency, k value, injector size what i mainly noticed.

Now This whole rom_label thing. They should all be the same for the same car right? Because it seems like all these sti tunes and this tune have different rom_labels then the 370's tunes.


The ROM_LABEL is the last 5 characters of the 23710-xxxxx part number on the sticker on the ECU, but the xxxxx is also in the bin itself at address 0x8FF1 (offset 0x0FF1), so that's how I identify a bin. You can run different bins in different ECUs, but it's the bin, not the hardware (ECU) that determines the tune and how the engine runs. All of the ECU ID, part number, etc. info I know about are here: http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/wolfpdf/ECU-ID.PDF

Cheers,
Dave
2009-08-25 20:08:49
#33
Originally Posted by nsusammyeb
what's the deal with this tunercode?? never heard of it. You know your stuff though i'll give you that.

He was referring to a bin file that we've been working on for a while now. 520's, n62 maf, sr20det. I had to ask the subaru guys what the latency was on the injectors so that we could even get the tune in the ballpark. I've got one that works pretty good on my car, just need to finish the wideband up to get it tweaked right.

set up is listed below.


TunerCode is the trade name I gave the custom ECU firmware development business I'm getting started. The TunerCode firmware is included with a Calum RTV2 board to support the additional I/O capabilities, but will also work with any daughter board. I'm currently working on the TunerCode documentation.

Cheers,
Dave
2009-08-26 14:51:55
#34
Originally Posted by dfddfd2
The problem is that when the speed gets above the LC speed set point (default 10 kph), the timing doesn't change, ie: the timing map lookup is skipped. Launch control with speed limit, rev limit, and rev hysteresis, will be a feature in the TunerCode firmware.


Do you mean if I use Calum bin for LC it will stay at the initial timing when I launch? What is that 15 degrees locked? As I said, I dont feel anything weird but havent logged a launch control session either.

ROM Label is 31 4D 38 36 31 (Shown as in TunerPro in HEX I think?)



By the way if any tuner here can take a look at that bin above, do you have any suggestion for latency? I have a feeling it should be more around 0.6ms, as 0.77ms is the stock latency of the GTi-R (444cc with SR20 MAF, but I have 444cc with Z32MAF).
2009-08-26 16:54:48
#35
Originally Posted by gtswrx
Do you mean if I use Calum bin for LC it will stay at the initial timing when I launch? What is that 15 degrees locked? As I said, I dont feel anything weird but havent logged a launch control session either.


The timing will stay at whatever its set to when the speed exceeds 10kph.

Originally Posted by gtswrx
ROM Label is 31 4D 38 36 31 (Shown as in TunerPro in HEX I think?)


Yes, that is hex. Converted to ASCII its 1M861.

Your bin does not have any launch control code, but while looking at it I discovered a timer which renders my previous launch control instructions useless. I'll reiterate that in my next post.

Cheers,
Dave
2009-08-26 16:58:52
#36
Originally Posted by dfddfd2
I created a couple of XDFs for the launch control parameters, one for 64k bins and another for 48k bins.

B14_P10_LC_Stock_ 64k_bin_TPV4.xdf
B14_P10_LC_Stock_ 48k_bin_TPV4.xdf

They should work for most 94-98 OBD2 SR20DE B14 or P10 bins. Click on the link above for your bin size to download. These XDFs contain only the two parameters described above, but if you know how to use the XDF editor, you can add them to the XDF you use now to avoid switching back and forth. The TPV4 in the file name stands for TunerPro version 4.

I have no way to actually test this, so let me know how it works. Please include your bin ROM_LABEL (ex: 1M861) when posting.

Cheers,
Dave


While looking at gtswrx'x bin, I discovered a timer in the stationary rev limit code which renders this launch control method useless. I apologize for this oversight! There will be a functional and programmable launch control rev limiter in the first release of the TunerCode firmware for B14s.

Regards,
Dave
2009-08-26 18:04:08
#37
That's awesome news man! Do we need the Calum R/T2 for this though? and is TunerCode free like TP? And when do you expect to release it?
2009-08-26 19:40:25
#38
Originally Posted by LikeTheMovies
That's awesome news man! Do we need the Calum R/T2 for this though?


No, launch control doesn't need any extra I/O.


Originally Posted by LikeTheMovies
and is TunerCode free like TP?


TunerCode firmware is included with an RTV2 purchase, but will be available separately for around $100. If purchased separately, you will receive a credit towards a Calum RTV2 purchase. There is a non-mandatory $30 registration fee for TunerProRT, and you really should do it. Mark has put in tons of hours and effort for us and TunerProRT is well worth it!


Originally Posted by LikeTheMovies
And when do you expect to release it?


I'm working on the documentation as we speak (err,type) and hope to have it ready by the time TunerPro RT V5 is released. TunerCode uses features only available with TunerPro RT V5.

Cheers,
Dave
2009-08-26 19:42:16
#39
Cant fully understand what you are saying, but I dont rely in that Launch Control bin anyway, I use intuition.

However, when you release that code you are talking about, I would very likely try/use it! Especially if the launch control will include timing retard for some exhaust flame time!
2009-08-26 19:58:36
#40
Originally Posted by gtswrx
Cant fully understand what you are saying, but I dont rely in that Launch Control bin anyway, I use intuition.


Basically what I was saying was that if the timing is 15º when the car reaches 10kph, it will stay at 15º. If it's at 20º, it will stay at 20º. The timing won't be updated again until the speed drops below 10kph. Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by gtswrx
However, when you release that code you are talking about, I would very likely try/use it! Especially if the launch control will include timing retard for some exhaust flame time!


I think "timing retard for some exhaust flame time" is called anti-lag, yes?

Dave
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