Originally Posted by
Dudeman258 Very interesting information. I seem to recall my n60 maf was reading around .6 volts last time I had the laptop hooked up. Time to check it out.
Thanks for the good information Scotty.
Dudeman
You're welcome. Just happened across these strange findings while troubleshooting. Most people just assume the MAFs are fine & perform the Grounding Mod as the
only check. Well, I have discovered differently. Although the ground mod really helps to improve the MAF signal, some MAFs are still much too weak to perform within specs. And I was also guilty of overlooking this possiblity when tracking down multiple idle issues & moving on to other culprits like the IACV & Air Regulator.
This is just another thing to check when testing/troubleshoot our cars.
Originally Posted by
Mr.sentra_specv most mafs should read .4-6v with the car off and from what i have seen on cobra and z32 they should read 1.2-1.4v at idle if your pulling 16+ vac.
Agreed... But to perform this test
accurately:
You
MUST perform the test with the car
idling AND at
operating temperature.
From my experience, Testing with the engine off will
not produce a dependable MAF signal and it is usually very low. With the car running, the MAF signal is at it strongest.
Originally Posted by
speedyd718 so would it be advantageous to set the maf high and low voltage points to what we read with a dmm?
See my comment below to Bill.
Originally Posted by
Vadim Checked mine with Nissan Data Scan, 1.49v-1.50 at idle.
Thats a very good signal Vad.. You can safely assume that your MAF is strong and that your issues are caused by something else..
Originally Posted by
billc Follow Scotty's directions above to add the MAF low voltage enrichment value to your XDF file so that you can see this parameter when you load a bin file into TunerPro.
Once you have saved your XDF file, load a bin and open the Low MAF Voltage Enrichment field. If you set this lower than whatever your MAF is reading at idle, it should alleviate drivability problems associated with low MAF voltage.
I would consider this to be a temporary solution while sourcing a replacement MAF.
BTW, the 1993 FSM shows the range of MAF voltages at idle to be 1.3-1.7v. A MAF showing values less than this should be replaced according to the FSM.
Scotty works on B13s mostly so I'm guessing that his XDF directions apply to B13s, not B14s, but I'm not sure.
Thanks Bill.. You are correct.. Ive mainly tested this with B13 cars; as I own a B13..
But this also applies to B14 cars and I validated this yesterday on a B14 ODB2 car.
For the B14, I had to change B14 XDF file to use the "E" address prefix:
EA22 (instead of
0A22 for B13s)
Yep and the good ones usually reads in the 1.3 - 1.5v range. I havent seen one above 1.5v yet, out of the maybe 15 or so tested thusfar.. Also, I agree that this is only a temporary solution for weaker MAFs while sourcing a replacement.