Thread: How to install TDMImports Rigid Collars

Hes more concerned about a big fat bar on the front of our cars (causing more understeer).

Exactly and the final results are way better that I expected as I just this did last weekend and car now feels great and much but much better that before.

Suspension techniques were gray.

The collars look good.

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It's a first gen Suspension Techniques sway bar, 30mm solid.
I bought it BNIB.

And thank you

Once bolted in it doesn't move no. But the shift in the subframe makes your caster and camber be different on each side (This is because lower control arms bolt onto the subframe, if lower control arms bolted on to the body of the car this wouldn't be an issue.)

So this isn't a "chassis stiffening" mod, it's a "get it back into spec" mod? I'd be curious to see before mod an after mod alignment readings. Perhaps centering the bolts isn't necessarily giving the "best" alignment settings?

Just a thought....since we know, more positive caster helps in the handling dept., couldn't we actually use that slop to get more positive caster?

On a side note, I find it interesting the vendor states "...NO alignment requires on this mod at all...". Clearly, if you move the subframe, the control arms move with it. If you move the control arms, the alignment settings change. I suppose an alignment isn't "required" if you don't have a clue what the mod does?

I definitely would call this a chassis stiffening mod, once you tighten those bolts that subframe wont move with or without spacers unless you get hit or have a heck of a lot torque.

I highly doubt you can get even caster by shifter the subframe. It's always going to tilt to one side over another. Your better off with caster bushings.

While the no alignment required is deceiving, for most people it's true though. Toe is the only thing you can align, and this should not affect toe at all.

Like I said, I'd like to see before and after alignment readings to verify what you're stating.

I don't disagree, I would like to see some too. I'll see if and when I can get mine done. I did install caster bushings post collars, so my results would not be a good example. Maybe someone else can make an effort to do so (and maybe they can get a free set for paying for the alignment?)

Does anyone know the torque specs of said nuts that are removed?