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Discuss the future of the national convention.

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2015-03-23 22:05:11
#41
Originally Posted by Chriscar
Originally Posted by 1fastser
...or get the track day secured first and base the convention date around that?
Don't you realize that's close to impossible at this point? We just don't have enough people willing to track their cars. It takes money to secure a track. So how do you propose securing a track first?

Back in the days of SERCA, they had a fund, which grew every year, and they used that money to get the track locked up well in advance. Those days are long gone, my friend.

C


I didn't realize...was just brainstorming.
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2015-03-23 23:59:44
#42
Originally Posted by mirrortints
Like the rest, I'm all for new locations and suggestions. Not feeling like GA, or OH again.

But...that all depends on people who want to organize. Probably only a handful willing since the past 5 years it was like pulling teeth to get enough people to sign up for road racing. Heck, I paid for 2, and didn't drive either time (car wasn't ready, or couldn't attend).

It's a stretch getting 15 people to pay upfront, 20? LOL


I'm partially biased to Georgia....for obvious reasons. However, the facts are, Georgia has THREE road courses AND TWO dragstrips. No offense to the north, but there are some not so favorable aspects: ....the traffic is beyond HORRIBLE. I am not a fan of paying for TOLL ROADS which seems to be dominate for many areas, and it does cost a lot for nearly everything (IE: Food n hotel). But don't be fooled.....the south has some negatives. You must hear "y'all" in many sentences and the mosquitoes like to bite. LOL But I do understand that there is a good population of the forum up north. Pick your poison I guess.



So 20 spots is a no go. This may even work out better that I thought. I'm pretty sure the track venue folks would be happy if we secured, say.....12 spots. It wouldn't overcrowd them and it would still have plenty of room for their usual folks.
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2015-03-24 00:21:46
#43
That would be cool, but seeing 10-12 forum members with 30+ total cars would keep me entertained for an hour or so. May just be me though.
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2015-03-24 00:31:01
#44
Originally Posted by mirrortints
That would be cool, but seeing 10-12 forum members with 30+ total cars would keep me entertained for an hour or so. May just be me though.


I enjoyed riding shotgun with some advanced guys.
Even with my short attention span, I was entertained for many hours

I would like some more input from folks about piggybacking the road course with other groups.
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2015-03-24 01:06:58
#45
Hey look, the same cars but the community has changed.

I guess the Egg did come before the Convention.
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2015-03-24 01:21:36
#46
For future Texas possibilities...that is, if your willing to make the drive despite the mosquitoes saying **YA'LL** Here's 7 or so road courses in central Texas....

...dare I mention renting COTA in Austin for a cool $55,000 per day. That works out to roughly ~$3700 each for the usual 15 people, and roughly ~$2800 for 20 peeps. I guess there *MAY* be an upper limit in the econobox crowd? I would fit that category at the current time.

What is the average cost to rent a road course from previous events?
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2015-03-24 01:26:17
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Originally Posted by 1fastser


I didn't realize...was just brainstorming.


Remember that whole "push for your dreams" ideal when you were a kid? I try to pursue it all the time, even now. I have tried before and been swiped at, don't let it stop you. That negative force is a pandemic that steamrolls what should and what can be accomplished. Take heed as it will be difficult, but that should be expected.

Texas will be cheaper. The problem appears to be if you drive for eight hours, you are still in Texas and not many folks will drive like you did, with two broken ribs, in a CSK equipped B13 egg to drive the car more on a track. That is an astronomical fact.

Cali boys are successful because the people are out there. The south can do it because the people are there.


P.S. If I ever get rich, I will rent out COTAS and put a bunch of shit-box Sentras on it. That I can guarantee right here and now.
Last edited by Kyle on 2015-03-24 at 01-28-53.
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2015-03-24 02:26:45
#48
Originally Posted by 1fastser
For future Texas possibilities...that is, if your willing to make the drive despite the mosquitoes saying **YA'LL** Here's 7 or so road courses in central Texas....

...dare I mention renting COTA in Austin for a cool $55,000 per day. That works out to roughly ~$3700 each for the usual 15 people, and roughly ~$2800 for 20 peeps. I guess there *MAY* be an upper limit in the econobox crowd? I would fit that category at the current time.

What is the average cost to rent a road course from previous events?


It averages $200-300 per person for a track day having XX amount of people.
I believe that eliminates even some of the convention folks --- so $3700 is way out is the question. Most of these b13/b14s are worth that much. LOL.

I like Texas...but Kyle is right. Most likely Not many will drive out there for it.
Cali has their group and that's probably why their convention is successful. The south has a decent presence. Hence I suggested having split up conventions. IE: North. South. Northeast. Whether that is feasible or not, only feedback will tell.
KYLE....you have great points in the previous post. Thanks
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2015-03-24 02:43:41
#49
Originally Posted by 1fastser
For future Texas possibilities...that is, if your willing to make the drive despite the mosquitoes saying **YA'LL** Here's 7 or so road courses in central Texas....

...dare I mention renting COTA in Austin for a cool $55,000 per day. That works out to roughly ~$3700 each for the usual 15 people, and roughly ~$2800 for 20 peeps. I guess there *MAY* be an upper limit in the econobox crowd? I would fit that category at the current time.

What is the average cost to rent a road course from previous events?


I am down for texas especially since work took me off the texas/cali route this semester ! COTA would be dope as hell but I imagine there won't be a lot of people paying more than the average SR car is worth these days to get on track there lol.
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2015-03-24 03:59:57
#50
Originally Posted by Keo
no point of calling it a convention then, might as well call it a annual regional meet.


I love this idea, I know clubs from Porsche to Mini that do this. In fact it might be an honorable way to go. Maybe even Semi Annual on a regional level and everyone is always invited

Originally Posted by 95g

If you want to drive on the track, then come down to the dirty south. BBQ after.


PREACH!!

Originally Posted by 95g
.....Most of you most likely know that there is info about something in the Atlanta area July 31 at the cost of $250 for the day.
Get in touch w/Joe and secure your spot asap.


Keep reading

Originally Posted by bhowle
I'm not sure why you're calling Joe out. 2013 was a great success by all measures. Joe even managed to get the drag day back on after it was rained out.

Because I was RELENTLESS!! You don't have to like me but I never once considered telling someone that I invited to my place that you can't run what you brung.

Originally Posted by SE-Rawkus
Originally Posted by bhowle
Originally Posted by SE-Rawkus

We have a lot of people that are willing to donate, but there are 10x the people that are not willing to front the upfront cost. You're very unaware if you think donations will cover the cost. I sure as hell don't expect the organizers to front the money at a chance of possibly not recovering it back. The reason 2012 Ohio Convention was such a great success was because it didn't require any upfront cost, especially for a dwindling community.

A lot you you guys only see what's written on this forum, but have not the slightest idea or clue of what goes behind the scenes, the calls, the pleas for help, etc... I get upset at all the armchair QBs that all they seem to to is bitch & complain.


I am well aware of how much time, effort and money goes in to organizing a successful track day. I also realize that it is not financially feasible for this group to rent a track outright. Perhaps it is time to re-think the way the conventions are planned if we are to continue with road course events.

Organizing a successful track day is not within the realm of organizing a successful 4-5 day convention.


Until we have 60+ cars tracking there isn't the feasability of the entire track to ourselves. Rethinking...........

Originally Posted by 95g
wow............

My humble suggestion is to team up with one of the driving venues that already have relationships with tracks, etc. Let's say they have a total of 60 cars on a track with 3 groups....if we can secure so many spots (let's throw out 20 spots for this case) and run with them. Typically these events are roughly $300 each car. $300 X 20 is $6,000. We promise them $6,000 and SR20 members have so many days to pay in full. After that deadline, we open it up for other members on other forums ----- most of us belong to other forums. I personally belong to an infiniti forum, mustang forum, and corvette forum (SUV forums don't count in this example).

Does this make any sense at all???
COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? CONCERNS?


Yes but you are over-thinking it. The group we're running with at Road Atlanta has 3 run groups, capped at 50 each. If he sells all the spots, and at that price he most certainly will, he brings in $37k. Last I heard a Friday at Road Atlanta was close to $30k, so as long as he hits 40 cars per group he's set.

The importance to this for us is that it allows us to get in on a track we could never afford with our size group at a price point that we find palatable. The key is funding the right track day organization to run with. These guys will relate to our road course group. The organizers drive a couple of Miatas, a Honda and at least one has previously run in Spec Miata.

Keep readin

Originally Posted by Chriscar
Originally Posted by 1fastser
...or get the track day secured first and base the convention date around that?
Don't you realize that's close to impossible at this point? We just don't have enough people willing to track their cars. It takes money to secure a track. So how do you propose securing a track first?

Back in the days of SERCA, they had a fund, which grew every year, and they used that money to get the track locked up well in advance. Those days are long gone, my friend.

C


Quoted for truth and relevance

Originally Posted by Kyle

Remember that whole "push for your dreams" ideal when you were a kid? I try to pursue it all the time, even now. I have tried before and been swiped at, don't let it stop you. That negative force is a pandemic that steamrolls what should and what can be accomplished. Take heed as it will be difficult, but that should be expected.

Texas will be cheaper. The problem appears to be if you drive for eight hours, you are still in Texas and not many folks will drive like you did, with two broken ribs, in a CSK equipped B13 egg to drive the car more on a track. That is an astronomical fact.

Cali boys are successful because the people are out there. The south can do it because the people are there.


P.S. If I ever get rich, I will rent out COTAS and put a bunch of shit-box Sentras on it. That I can guarantee right here and now.


I like the way this young guy thinks. You're welcome at the old guys table anytime Kiddo!!

Link for the Road Atlanta thread in the Regional Forum:
http://www.sr20-forum.com/southeast/77296-road-atlanta-250-a.html
Last edited by happynole on 2015-03-24 at 05-49-42.
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