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2012-04-05 22:18:54
#271
Because this belongs here:

Originally Posted by Cliff
In all seriousness, VIN's: The only reason it's there is to protect the buyer and seller. Most people that look at your thread are going to ask for the VIN if they're even remotely interested in the car anyway. Hell half of those same people will flake and say nevermind, so what's so "secretive" about a VIN? I can walk down the street and pull a VIN from every car in the neighborhood.

Again, if folks don't like certain things, I fully encourage them to approach me decently (without being a jackass unless you're Keo) and I'll do whatever I can to help out. This may not be a democrazy, but we still take everyone's thoughts into consideration behind the scenes and vote on issues/options/etc.

Most improvements don't happen overnight, but we honestly can't say we HAVEN'T addressed an issue that was brought to our attention. (Classifieds case in point again)
2012-04-06 11:49:31
#272
This belongs here too.

Originally Posted by Will
What is the reason for the VIN requirement? Carfax? make sure it's not stolen?

I feel like the rule should be dropped, or at least they would be warned for 2 days and then the thread locked.
2012-04-06 12:08:56
#273
Requiring the vin is BULL SHIT, you want it fucking ask for it...kind of shows interest and your not just kicking tires

This should be a rule too, ehat good for one is good for all, lock one thread for lacking info, all that are lacking ther of need to be locked as well...and maybe a BETTER way to do this would be a post in the thread stating in simple terms "you're lacking required info, correct within 12hours or your thread will be locked" that simple, not "yo shits locked son, pm me and ill reopen"
Last edited by chapnutz1 on 2012-04-06 at 12-28-49.
2012-04-06 12:42:22
#274
Cliff is right: you can probably go down the street and get all of the vin numbers you want. But if someone wants your car it's very easy to take a vin, call the dealership and get a key made and go get the car. It has happened numerous times in Canada and has made its way into the states years ago.

And Justin is right. If your gonna do it for one you gotta do it for all. Meaning every for sale ad without a vin must be closed until it is fixed or take the nazi out of the mods pants for a few and let the people fix it first. I saw an ad that has been up for 2 days in the forced induction section without a picture.. It hasn't been taken down.

As you can see the forum gurus do not come on here as much anymore. They all communicate within themselves via other forms of communicatuon(text, instant message, other websites) and since that happens you lose the actual knowledge that helps everyone in the community and it loses that strive to want to go to the next level with tested R&d for the community to see and try.

We all want to go or see the next level. it is being stopped because of this treatment. I'm not saying break rules that are common sense, but get rid of the d bag cop attitudes and treat people for who they are and what credibility they have.

Cliff: you are a true friend and I'll go to war with you anyday even if you own a subie .. But some of your ways of coming across to moderate can be abrupt to people who don't know you. I think you do a great job but I'll never stop calling you a mod nazi( always in jest)
Fenderbenner: I have nothing PERSONAL against you. You just piss me off with the way you handle things on here. I have a group of people that feel the same way. I've had a few pm's back and forth but your stuck on robocops approach. For not getting any $$ for this we all hope you step down from your position or back off just enough to give everyone a chance as people to fix there mistakes if they are a major problem. Having a vin number in a for sale thread should not make or break a reason to close a thread. If you did that to me I would of probably told this forum and you to go FAWK yourselves and said "I'll see you all later".

So to recap my story: either A) please lighten up on the tight wads in your pants or B) your gonna lose more people than you already have.

Now a typical response is: screw it, if you choose to leave then that is up to you. Or) if you can't follow the rules then who needs you anyway!
My answer to those responses are: I'm not saying do not have any rules, I'm just saying lighten up a little bit officer: we are people who are capable of a lot more than you think. I've been in this game since 1997 when I was 15!! I've seen em come I've seen em go. I know more se-r owners doing bigger projects than Ashton's advertising back in the 90's. We've all come together and we hate to see good people move on but it does happen, life happens and changes things. But we don't want to lose good people from something that could of been fixed easily.

Celm: we appreciate what your doing with this forum. It is a great plus for the community. But I don't want this forum to lose these people because of blown up chests about very minuscule rules.
Last edited by marksr20 on 2012-04-06 at 13-14-38.
2012-04-06 12:47:03
#275
Originally Posted by marksr20
Cliff is right: you can probably go down the street and get all of the vin numbers you want. But if someone wants your car it's very easy to take a vin, call the dealership and get a key made and go get the car. It has happened numerous times in Canada and has made its way into the states years ago.

And Justin is right. If your gonna do it for one you gotta do it for all.


thanks and that is why nissan's have NATs now and many other manufacturers have chipped keys as well
2012-04-06 13:01:19
#276
Originally Posted by chapnutz1
maybe a BETTER way to do this would be a post in the thread stating in simple terms "you're lacking required info, correct within 12hours or your thread will be locked" that simple, not "yo shits locked son, pm me and ill reopen"
This puts so much work on the shoulders of the moderator. You have no idea how much work this is to accomplish fairly, across multiple threads. All so someone who can't follow a simple, clear, well defined, highly visible rule that has been in effect for over a year on this forum won't get upset?
Last edited by BenFenner on 2012-04-06 at 13-04-41.
2012-04-06 13:27:56
#277
Originally Posted by BenFenner
This puts so much work on the shoulders of the moderator. You have no idea how much work this is to accomplish fairly, across multiple threads. All so someone who can't follow a simple, clear, well defined, highly visible rule that has been in effect for over a year on this forum won't get upset?


so you're basically saying is this

20 threads get posted lacking all info required...
you jump into that section and just before you do, 1 more thread gets posted...
you open that '1' thread and there is 1 minor piece of "required" info missing, your then actions are as followes 'yoooo shits locked down son' then sit down crack open an ice cold frosty beer smiling as you think you did a great thing today, as to where there are many other threads to be moderated, not just the one you opened...if it is too much to handle, you are OBVIOUSLY not cut out to do the job..sorry man, it is what it is and it is simply just that...
Last edited by chapnutz1 on 2012-04-06 at 13-31-16.
2012-04-06 13:41:28
#278
chap, we're having two similar conversations across two different threads. Your accusation is perfectly countered here in the other thread: http://www.sr20-forum.com/759542-post128.html

Please pay special attention to #2.
2012-04-06 13:50:13
#279
Originally Posted by BenFenner
2) I was told by a peer to not actively look for problems in the classifieds at this time, in so many words. Had this not have happened, I would have actively blazed through the classifieds section weeks ago.


so why just pick my recently bumped thread, and one at almost the bottom of the page??? quit dodging the question and simply answer, that easy...you should have done your 'moderator' job and 'moderated' and went through all of them and not just say this looks interesting, somethings missing "yoooo shits locked son" while waving your chrome plastic jessie james play set gun

but go through them all, and close them all with missing required info


i guess you are just not understanding what i am saying...i am done here, bye...maybe with the forum entirely
2012-04-06 13:55:26
#280
Originally Posted by chapnutz1
so why just pick my recently bumped thread, and one at almost the bottom of the page??? quit dodging the question and simply answer, that easy...
For the third time on this, your thread, (and one other) was brought to my attention as not complying with the rules. I have never dodged this question.

Please try to stay on the topic of the forum rules and discussion so we can get somewhere.
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