
Originally Posted by
robj80
G20.net has a sponsors section and it seems to work out great.
This is what I meant to imply. Did not realize it was abused elsewhere.

Originally Posted by
robj80
We don't use it to bash anyone or any of the other things suggested in here.
This is where we could use a solution, in order to reduce conflicts, (as each admin sees fit), not restrict free-speech, Dre.
I understand why you feel so strongly about hidden agendas, after explaining your view, but you still have the controls to erase any post, right? Thanks for the enlightenment.
It does not come easily to me, that folks would confuse or misuse privacy, as "exclusivity". Now I understand how a small group of folks, mis-handled the "member's only" area, and why we do not have one.

Originally Posted by
robj80
We have a classifieds section to sell things for forum supporters. We usually list it in the regular section too after a few days or so. Just give first dibs to those that support the forum. There is also a section where sponsors discuss things like member of the month and we nominate people. Then there is the how too section. I I believe the how too's are still available via search for non supporters but it's all nice and neat if you did sponser up. Finally we get a nice discussion section. This seems to be the most popular thing.
So if properly moderated, the member's only section, can be a useful RESPECTFUL MEASURE, for co-operating sellers, who do not always want to offer their wares, to folks who do not support the forum... However; since the last gang abused this private zone, one's connotation is that such an area would be "bad".
I suppose after predatory parts manufacturers/suppliers, tried to feed off noobs, as vultures, it became "big business", to exclude "those who could be thrown out", in order to run a fixed-game.
So transparency is key, over membership. I get your point.
Thank you for your interesting and meaningful discussion.
The Poker game concept, was just for fun. The only unreasonable "gambling", I have personally been afraid of in the past three years, is buying parts from some of the "less than desirable sellers", who seem to be here just to cause trouble and "sell" conflicting information, troll in order to sell bogus parts, (and sometimes start conflicts); yet pay no membership fees.
I keep seeing non-members "ruling threads", when a conflicting opinion is proposed, by character assassination, of known PAYING members.
OK I understand the time-in, you guys have and the problems you must have had to deal with, long before I became involved. Understood.
One did not understand: "profitability is not an issue".
I was merely attempting to suggest a method, by which to drive-demand and profitability, for Crim; while preserving/increasing "MEMBERS Rights", to first dibs on parts, from known paying forum supporters; TO KNOWN FORUM SUPPORTERS.
I cannot see how a non-supporter, especially one who starts trouble on threads regularly, has the right, to "grab select parts", over a paying member, who would have EARNED, at least some right, to a "first-look", at quality parts, before they are put on the OPEN FORUM MARKET.
If I eluded to a "squabble quarantine area", improperly misdirecting my intentions, it was just as encouragement, that fighting and abusive mannerism, may be prevented from public defamation, without all the dirty laundry from overwhelming the thread starter's right to keep it on topic.
I also understand, how those who are unemployed, except by selling parts here, have zero incentive, or care the least, who comes up with the cash, ASAP, no matter if they pay membership dues, OR NOT.
From a consumer membership-point-of-view, (rather than a vendor's point of view), I see "the rights of paying dues members", as an important feature/incentive, for paying CRIM each year.
However, I am not selling mass-quantity, of large ticket items, as you are Dre, and now I see how one may be excluded from selling, by vicious exclusion, if the wrong people direct the conduct within a "member's only" lounge.
Thanks for answering my question.