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Thread: 2JRacing Panhard Rod How To (B15)

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2011-02-14 21:45:55
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The Nissan rear suspension is very cool, for a wheelbarrow. To keep the rear suspension from flexing sideways under load, Nissan uses a device called a Scott-Russell linkage. However Scott and Russell must not have been very good suspension engineers. The linkage does reduce flex but is hampered by the big soft gushy rubber bushings needed to keep it from binding up. The linkage causes binding and uneven wheel rates from side to side.



Worse yet the Scott-Russell linkage has a very high rear roll center. To eliminate these issues we have to get rid of the linkage entirely. We replaced the linkage with a Panhard Rod. The Panhard Rod keeps the suspension from flexing sideways at all and lowers the roll center by as much as 6” from stock.




We designed the rods mounting points to be adjustable by inserting the pivots in different holes and sliding the mount so the roll center height can be adjusted to help control the amount of rear roll. Ideally we want the rear to roll slightly less than the front. With the Panhard rod in place, we have reduced this cars tendency to overload its front outside wheel.


This was taken from MotoIQ
Project Nissan Sentra Spec-V part 5; Lessons in Geometry
Last edited by RobSE on 2011-02-14 at 21-58-44.
2011-02-14 22:47:19
#12
^^ I like the adjustable sway bar. ^^
2011-02-14 22:48:19
#13
Hmmm....

So the triangles are the chassis mounts, P is the axle mount.....interesting.

Last edited by hammerin hank on 2011-02-14 at 22-59-38.
2011-02-16 12:06:35
#14
So much for the fuel tank.
2011-02-16 18:41:28
#15
uhhh thats the spare tire well, not the fuel tank.
2011-02-16 18:42:06
#16
Originally Posted by Wayne
So much for the fuel tank.


What do you mean ?
2011-02-16 19:11:48
#17
Originally Posted by Wayne
So much for the fuel tank.




2011-02-16 20:22:41
#18
This is in addition to bending your beam. A Watts/Panhard setup fixes rear roll center and binding.

It does not have any effect on toe and camber.

Originally Posted by Boostlee
^^^ Why are you entertaining such questions?? LOL just poking fun

(thinking aloud here)........But since a big issue is finding someone to get the rear beam bent, organizing, etc, at a rate of a little less than 300, for a few hundred more, you can redo the entire rear end!!

I think this is a great deal (I have been watching this cars developments as he piqued my interested with his BC suspension setup).

P.S. To know the product is tried and true, look them up on youtube.........They have a video with him breaking V1 of the Watts link (hence why they have an updated V2 and this is not to talk negative of the system, but just pointing out there is proper developmental conditions being carried out here..........)

Carry on

P.S. Is that the completed system?? I could be wrong, but it looks like there some missing suspension linkages??? Can someone correct my thoughts if I am incorrect please??
2011-02-20 01:34:24
#19
are these parts esp. the watt link setup custom or could it be ordered and shipped, can i get any link for 2jracing?
2011-04-12 01:00:55
#20
Hmm....maybe just weld in a B13 rear suspension?? LOL Fun times...
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