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2012-04-19 12:48:55
#11
Are we using hindsight, or not?
2012-04-19 13:17:34
#12
Brought GTI-R over and would have used a 50V trans along with a DET option for B13 SE-R. Also power windows option for the B13. Cup holders for P10 as well as AWD and DET option. That is about it for SR.

Also would have brought over a high sompression DE no option B13 with higher spring rates, lowered slightly, 15 wheels, etc something like an Autech and called it an N1 spec or something of the like.
Last edited by P10FTW on 2012-04-19 at 14-06-48.
2012-04-19 13:50:29
#13
^^^yes power windows and if the body could be corrosion resistant like some other type or material
2012-04-19 13:54:03
#14
Originally Posted by SE-Rtainlyb13
If you were in charge of the design team for Nissan in 1990, what would you have done differently to the Sentra SE-R? Would you keep it for the same market audience? Any aftermarket considerations?

Honestly, I think they did a pretty darn good job.
- I'd shorten the overhang on the bumpers (similar to the Sunny)
- I'd offer 60/40 fold down rear seats as an option
- Stronger 3rd gear somehow
- I'd get Nismo involved early on to spur on the aftermarket support

With all this, the price would stay almost the same, so It would still be great value!

Just for fun.


Dave

Cool topic.

I'd like to upgrade your "Stronger 3rd Gear" to...

*Better Overall Tranny - Including the case, gear stacks, synchros, etc.... Throw an extra hundred bucks at it at the factory parts level, and up the Dealer Price by a hundred and fifty bucks.

Originally Posted by SE-Rtainlyb13
What about the suspension? Just get rid of the macpherson struts?

Too expensive. You need to keep the cost about the same. One of, if not Thee, major selling point for the SE-R was the price/performance ratio.

Originally Posted by sr20aphex
turbo

That would be an easy factory option since the motor came turbo in Japan.

Originally Posted by ga16eats
make a b13 ser spec v version with a ve

No bueno.

You are in 1990. VE does not exist. It has to be options or upgrades that were at least feasible, and they cannot cost a shit-load on a vehicle whose primary selling point was it's cost/performance ratio.

Originally Posted by SE-RMonkey
- Variable int. wipers
- Lower stance (less tire/fender gap)
- 4 door version
- Turbo/awd edition
- Split rear seat

4-door. Yessssssss.

*Nismo SE-R - Turbo/awd would have been terrific for the Nismo SE-R or whatever they called it. Would have commanded a premium over and above the standard SE-R. Limited numbers brought in probably, just for serious enthusiasts. Kick an extra 4K at the Dealer Price. It would have still been a serious Performance Bargain with an excellent price/performance ratio in 1991.

*NX2000 brakes standard on the SE-R. Add negligible cost. Just up the quantity of NX parts ordered. Add thirty dollars to the Dealer Price.

*Front Strut Tower Bar - Easy as can be and cheap. Stock item on plenty of other factory performance vehicles. Add ten dollars to the Dealer Price.

*IKEA Brace - More structural rigidity for the performance platform. Stock on all SE-R models. Add twenty bucks to the dealer price. Screw 60/40 fold down seats.

*Stiffer Motor Mounts - The Nismo/JWT ones or the Place Racing compound. Slightly softer and more comfortable than Prothanes. Maybe keep the big squishy liquid-filled motor mount the same, but make the ones that resist the torque much stiffer. Add thirty-bucks (tops) to the Dealer Price.

*Interior Door Handles - Upgrade the strength with thicker plastic. Add a dollar to the Dealer Price.

*More Goop On the Factory Tail-lights - Add a nickle to the Dealer Price.

*GTiR Gauge Pod - Stock on the aforementioned theoretical Nismo SE-R with turbo/awd. Available as a two-hundred dollar Dealer Option on the SE-R.

*Move Seatbelts - To the B pillar. Fuck the US Transportation rules. Zero cost.

*Delete Sunroof on any and all SE-R vehicles - This is a Performance Car for performance enthusiasts. Putting a hole in the roof decreases structural rigidity and handling. Putting a bunch of weight at the top of the vehicle is detrimental to handling characteristics. No fucking sunroof available on any SE-R. Period. You want a sunroof? Cut your own. Delete $200.00 from Dealer Price.

*Nismo Suspension - Standard on Nismo SE-R, optional on SE-R. Lower stiffer progressive springs (300/200, Hyperco-like) AND shorter, stiffer factory front struts (CSK-like). Both of which could have easily been designed, tested and built by Tokico. Add $600.00 as an SE-R option on the Dealer Price.

*B14 SE-R Wheels - Stock on the Nismo SE-R, an option on the standard SE-R for an extra $200.00. While the wheels did not exist yet, the technology to build them and tires to put on them, did exist.

With all that said? I am still glad I bought my SE-R brand-new in 1993 and still have it. Nissan got most of the vehicle spot-on, and it was, and still is a performance bargain.

Shawn B
Last edited by Shawn B on 2012-04-19 at 14-24-22.
2012-04-19 15:52:06
#15
- Move antenna to the rear fender à la Sunny
2012-04-19 16:16:02
#16
Nx center console
Nx1600 digital cluster
Side skirts
The umbrella pocket like in the gtir
2012-04-19 23:50:41
#17
Originally Posted by Ulysses
...Nx1600 digital cluster...


Digital cluster would be a deal breaker for me. Analog or nothing at all.
2012-04-20 00:05:21
#18
Originally Posted by SE-RMonkey
Digital cluster would be a deal breaker for me. Analog or nothing at all.


Finally,someone else who likes the analog.
My first NX was a 1600.
That digital dash is horrible.
It cracks me up that people swap them in to replace the analog.
2012-04-20 00:28:00
#19
In 1991 id say the only thing (performance wise) would be is suspension, camber, height, etc.... other than that Nissan hit it dead on. Think about it not many fwd "sport compacts" were able to fuck with it in the united states.....honestly its the best ff sports car of its day we, as in americans were able to purchase.
2012-04-20 01:05:22
#20
Originally Posted by eggman
Finally,someone else who likes the analog.
My first NX was a 1600.
That digital dash is horrible.
It cracks me up that people swap them in to replace the analog.


GM had a few digital IP's back in the 80's that we're horrible. I think Nissan actually came late to the game with the digital IP in the NX. Anyway, same thing goes with all electronics equipment for me. I'd rather see a needle bouncing back and forth than a bar of lights flashing in my face giving me seizures.

I'm trying to FORGET the 80's....



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