Sorry, I don't deal with hose techniques anymore. Last time I tried to place a wholesale oder with them they told me they were out of hose and wouldn't have new hose for kits for THREE MONTHS! I don't know what the status of that is now, but now that I have a lot going on in life, i had to focus more on the main job that pays the bills, and some vendor accounts had to be canceled due to low demand. If there are enough people interested I will check into them again after the holiday weekend.