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2011-07-01 14:06:03
#11
Originally Posted by jamanrr
yeah that looks great are you lowered any?

Yes I am lowered. Typical Road Magnet (with AGX) setup. That's Road Magnet Gen2 springs if it matters. To clear the 225 tires with the lower springs, you really should roll the rear fenders. +35mm offset wheels might allow you to avoid the rolling. Maybe. I have +32mm offset in the rear.
Stock height you should be fine without rolling.



Here's a before and after for my spring install.
Originally Posted by BenFenner
Stance before the spring install:


Stance after the spring install:

Last edited by BenFenner on 2011-07-01 at 14-10-51.
2011-07-01 14:15:47
#12
I am not a fan of lowered cars ride performance. I live in area with rough roads and adding lowering springs will just jar me to death. On my s14 I ran Skyline GTR wheels and they looked awesome, some 16 x 8s on stock suspension it looked great. The NX2000 does not have much wheel gap to begin with meaning that you can not throw super huge tires under there and make them look right, IMO. I really do not care if the speedometer is off on this car any since I will not be modifying the engine any and will only cruise with it. 195 55 15s are a universal tire that a lot of manufacturers make and if it looks good then why not run them? I have nothing against lowered cars, in some states like Cali and Florida you have the roads to run that stuff but if I hit a pot hole here I am liable to break stuff on the car not to mention knocking all my fillings loose.
2011-07-01 14:25:25
#13
I think your problem is that all your doing is slapping lowering springs on "weak" shocks.

Also, the biggest problem with lowering springs (and why I personally have not been a fan of most) is that they are both too soft and too short for their own good.
2011-07-01 14:29:05
#14
Originally Posted by jamanrr
I am not a fan of lowered cars ride performance. I live in area with rough roads and adding lowering springs will just jar me to death. On my s14 I ran Skyline GTR wheels and they looked awesome, some 16 x 8s on stock suspension it looked great. The NX2000 does not have much wheel gap to begin with meaning that you can not throw super huge tires under there and make them look right, IMO. I really do not care if the speedometer is off on this car any since I will not be modifying the engine any and will only cruise with it. 195 55 15s are a universal tire that a lot of manufacturers make and if it looks good then why not run them? I have nothing against lowered cars, in some states like Cali and Florida you have the roads to run that stuff but if I hit a pot hole here I am liable to break stuff on the car not to mention knocking all my fillings loose.


Good suspension will not be "jarring".You just gotta suck it up and spend some money to do it right with these cars.
Try to get a ride in someones nx with hyperco/CSKs before you condemn lowered cars.
I believe that will be as close to stock ride you will get and it will only lower the car an inch.It wont be slammed and all bouncy.

IMO that is the only way you are gonna get what you are looking for.
Either that or pick one..because you are not gonna get rid of the wheel gap and have sidewall without the car looking like a 4x4.
2011-07-01 14:31:01
#15
Originally Posted by jamanrr
as compared to a 195 55 = 107.25 mm

the speed o would be off by 3 percent, which wheel would look the best with stock ride height? I am not a wheel expert.
We can talk wheels later.
Originally Posted by jamanrr
the 45 and 50 series are low profile tires so I am guessing they will have a smaller footprint with more wheel well gap?
That is correct.

Originally Posted by jamanrr
195 55 15s are a universal tire that a lot of manufacturers make and if it looks good then why not run them?
It seems like you're kind of set on the 195/55/15 tires. That's fine. They are going to look like balloons though. That's a big sidewall, and they won't be any sort of performance tire at all. Frankly, it's going to look worse if you ask me.

I think if you're going to stay stock ride height, the best thing you could do is just keep the stock 14" wheels and stock tire size. You're going with 15" wheels though. I'd say stick with the normal 205/50/15 option.
But if you want a really cushy ride, and you don't mind gaining even more ride height, then by all means go with the 195/55/15 tires. They are going to look silly though. I promise you.
2011-07-01 14:32:44
#16
I believe cars are engineered to ride at certain heights from the factory and do not like to be deviated much from them. I have gr2s on the NX2k and ran d specs on the s14. I owned a prelude which was lowered and it had an aftermarket camber kit on it which just beat everything to hell. I hated that car up to the point I sold it.

I will test fit them then take a tape measure and try and figure out the best tire I can get for that ride height. A little wheel well gap is not bad but 4 fingers is excessive.

these are what I got used but they will look good I think

Last edited by jamanrr on 2011-07-01 at 14-42-35.
2011-07-01 14:33:50
#17
Originally Posted by eggman
GTry to get a ride in someones nx with hyperco/CSKs before you condemn lowered cars.
For all intents and purposes, that combo should ride better (smoother) than stock over rough roads.
Last edited by BenFenner on 2011-07-01 at 15-42-25.
2011-07-01 14:38:30
#18
Originally Posted by jamanrr
I believe cars are engineered to ride at certain heights from the factory and do not like to be deviated much from them.
In some ways this is true, but in other ways it is not, especially when it comes to ride comfort. It is very common to be able to lower a car and actually get a more sublime ride. You just have to choose the correct parts. I see from your descriptions of your past cars you haven't been doing that.

We lowered an e30 BMW about 2 inches with "stage 3" progressive racing springs that were ultimately 3x stiffer than stock and prevented a lot of body roll, paired with the correct Bilstein shocks/struts and the car was like a Lexus over road irregularities.
The progressive rate springs were better designed to handle crappy roads than the stock linear springs even though the final rates were high, and the Bilstein units were perfectly matched to the needs of the springs and didn't add any real compression resistance common with crappy aftermarket dampers.
Last edited by BenFenner on 2011-07-01 at 14-50-14.
2011-07-01 15:09:08
#19
the prelude had agx shocks and Eibach lowering springs, the 240sx had Tokico d specs which are like 600 bucks and stock ride springs. It rode nice. The NX2k has gr2s with stock springs and it is a little stiffer than it was but rides ok. I have friends with coil-over s13s and s14s and their cars ride rougher than log wagons. We do not have the roads in order to drive lowered rides like that. It makes it too tough.
2011-07-01 15:35:31
#20
Sounds like you've never experienced a properly setup aftermarket suspension with all facets of car control catered to. No wonder you think it can't be done.

Wait, the Tokico setup with stock springs (or stock height aftermarket springs?) rode nice. So you have experienced a good aftermarket setup? Just not a good lowered setup?
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