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2015-11-10 17:27:04
#31
Originally Posted by jimbo_se-r
Originally Posted by metro_se-r
Anyone else try the Chumpcar series as well? I find it to be better (at least here on the East coast) just on the fact that you don't have 140 cars on a 2 mile track.


I've done LeMons, Chump, and also World Racing League, those are the three series that run in Texas. It has been many years since I've seen a LeMons race get above 80-90 cars entered, and being LeMons there are never that many on the track at once. On a 2+ mile track, it is manageable. Once Chump started up here, it took a chunk of cars away from the LeMons races, which I guess is a good thing.

Chump here typically has 40 cars or so, depending on the track and paddock space available. WRL I've only driven at one track (Texas World Speedway), and I think they had about 50 there.

Many of the same people at LeMons and Chump here, driving styles pretty evenly matched between those two series. The trick is to watch people and try to figure out ahead of time who's new out there and who isn't, before they do something stupid. WRL I found to have a much more aggressive driving style, and there was a much more serious mismatch of cars out there. Chump and LeMons both seem to have a good balance, but WRL had a number of NASA and other such cars out there driving for blood. Fortunately, being an endurance race, that crowd thinned greatly by the second day. LOL


I don't know how many Lemons races you get in Texas, but here in the Northeast we are only blessed with two per season, three if you count New Hampshire during Halloween which I'd rather not bother with. That pretty much amounts to 150+ registered cars per race. Granted there are about half that on second day, but still. We've had instances where we'd be out there for an hour stint and run 55 of those minutes under a yellow flag, it's ridiculous to be honest. I find Chump to be a better alternative. Maybe not as fun in the 'party' department, but less cars and assigned pit spaces make for a better experience overall, IMO. Now I've yet to try AER, but that may be something we'll be doing next year. I like the concept of a qualifying round that determines what class you're placed in, as opposed to a judge dumping you in 'A' with V8 powered Volvos because you didn't bring a bribe. And just to be clear, I don't hate Lemons, I enjoy the overall experience, but ultimately they need to start limiting entries for the Northeast to make the track experience better.
2015-11-10 18:02:53
#32
Originally Posted by Rodknox
We ran the second ever Chump race. It was at Sears. Chump is a little more forgiving for contact and offs. My main complaint is their friggen monstrous, ever changing rule book.


Actually I believe their new policy is a three year rule book cycle, meaning nothing changes for three years. Even with that, the only difference from Lemons that I recall is the requirement for a fire suppression system, window net, and a centrally mounted kill switch. Everything else is pretty much the same. What I don't like are the penalty points they count for stupid shit. We covered the sunroof opening for safety reasons, but get penalized penalty laps for the sheet metal used, which makes little sense.

In any case, here are some pics of our B14 shitbox taking laps at Shenandoah, WV. I can also post a youtube video of us blowing the first motor if you guys like. That was a 'fun' experience.





2015-11-13 05:58:51
#33
yes please on the motor blowing video
2015-11-14 22:15:34
#34
Hey Jeff, here's another little something....it might rain...this wing will help...we've run 2 really rainy races at sears in dec.

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Last edited by Rodknox on 2015-11-14 at 22-18-49.
2015-11-16 00:44:44
#35
Originally Posted by choke
yes please on the motor blowing video


Sure thing, enjoy:



Here's the aftermath, yes you can easily fit a softball through there.

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