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2010-07-19 13:55:03
#51
Originally Posted by xCONWRATHx
Small update on rinseless wash products in the washing section. I'll get more done tonight, I promise.

Shawn, I think what would probably work best for you (read ease of use, minimal time required, and maximum effect on cleanliness and shine) is as follows...

A bottle of ONR
Meguiar's Clay Bar kit
A bottle of Klasse AIO
A bottle of Chemical Guy's Acrylic Glaze II
A bottle of Optimum Opti-Seal spray wax/Optimum Car Wax spray
A pack of cheap chinese microfiber from Autozone/wherever
A (3) pack of Cobra Shamrock microfiber towels
About 4-5 quality microfiber applicators/foam waxing discs
Eagle1 wheel cleaner
Meguiar's Hot Shine tire shine

The ONR you can use for your wash as described in the first post.
The clay kit should get your paint nice and cleaned up for waxing.

After the claying you should apply a veeery thin coat of the CG Glaze, if you're unsure whether there is still product on the applicator then you know it's thin enough. It is rather difficult to remove if it cures too thick. If applying the sun just do a single panel at a time and wipe off before starting the next panel, if in the shade or garage you can do the whole car and let it sit for about a half hour to cure before wiping off. The glaze is an acrylic filler, so if there is any swirling on your car it should help to fill in those scratches (I'm against using fillers as it is a crutch towards having a properly scratch free finish, but in this case it is the best option rather than having you go buy a $200 buffer kit). The reason why I suggest this particular glaze is because it is acrylic and not carnuba, the Klasse AIO is acrylic as well so you can apply the Klasse on top of the glaze and still have maximum bond strength and durability.

Next is the Klasse application, apply exactly as you did the glaze except even thinner. You should only need 8-10 pea sized drops to cover the entire car, any more and you're wasting the product. A thicker application will still only bond at the thinnest layer. The Klasse can be used on all rubber/plastic/vinyl trim as a dressing as well so don't worry about leaving any wax residue, because there won't be any! It should leave a nice deep black matte shine on all the trim for months to come. You can also use this on your windows, it will protect and bead up water better than RainX and won't leave a hazy finish.

After the Klasse you can apply your spray wax, the Opti-Seal is more expensive per volume but will deliver unparalleled protection and shine for the price. I have never used OCW personally but have read amazing reviews about it, it will have significantly less protection as the Opti-Seal but will deliver great shine. The Opti-Seal is probably overkill as the Klasse offers 4-6+ months of protection, and the Opti-Seal is similar in durability. If you like the sound of overkill, go ahead and use the Opti-Seal over the Klasse and the OCW over the Opti-Seal, your car will be shiny as hell and protected from just about all forms of road grime. Application of both of these spray waxes is very easy, just wipe on and wipe off. The Opti-Seal should be used very very very sparingly, an 8 ounce bottle is enough to wax about 20 cars, two sprays should cover half a car. You will want to spray your applicator and not the panel, when wiping you should see the product disappear a few seconds after wiping. The OCW can be used more liberally, spray a panel down trying to achieve even coverage and wipe the product off.

Use the Cobra Shamrock towels (or something with similar plushness, at least 500 grams/inch) on your paint, you can fold them so each side has 4 sections. When soiled just fold to a clean section.

The cheap chinese microfiber is for use on any area that is extremely dirty that doesn't matter if scratched, such as the wheels, wheel wells, interior surfaces, windows, door jambs, etc.

For the wheels, presoak with your quick detail solution of ONR, let that sit for a few minutes and then wipe off. If there is still some stuck on brake dust use the Eagle1 wheel cleaner, this is a fairly strong product so use it sparingly. Just spray on, let soak for a minute or so, and then wipe off. This process applies for the tires as well.

Once cleaned, you can apply the Hot Shine tire dressing with an old sock or other disposable applicator. Wax the wheels using your Klasse AIO.


Most of these products (Klasse, Opti-Seal, OCW, ONR, Cobra MF, Chemical Guys) you won't be able to find at your neighborhood Autozone, so you'll have to order them online.

My favorite supply site is www.autogeek.net, as they have a huge selection and price matching! Right now if you use the code 15BELOW you can get 15% off your entire order, if you spend $75 or more you get a free Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray (good stuff!).


Connor,

When/If you get a chance, can you take a peak at my thread in Member's Rides for the WRX, and give me a pretty simple breakdown such as above, for a DIY detail? She's going to need some work, but I want to attempt to do it myself, with the use of your helpful guide!

Thanks!!!!

Cliff
2010-07-19 23:37:59
#52
Thanks Cliff, I appreciate the kind words, I'll send you a PM later tonight.
2010-07-25 18:20:32
#53
So any advice on cleaning and maintaining a car with a clear bra?
2010-07-25 18:38:10
#54
You can wash a clear bra exactly as you would the rest of the car, there's no harm in using a bug scrub sponge on it either. For any stubborn staining you can use a 3:1 dilution of Simple Green or Purple Power. If there is any light oxidation or very light marring you can polish it using a non-abrasive chemical polish such as Plexus or Klasse. Machine polishing can be tricky as clear bras are extremely sensitive to heat, too much heat can cause discoloration, lifting of the material, or warping. Using a light abrasive polish is also possible, but should really only be done by somebody experienced as it runs the same risks as too much heat. You should NOT clay a clear bra, as it can cause marring as well as cause a major headache by causing the clay to be 'sticky' and leaving hard to remove residue. Waxing is an absolute must, and is in no way dangerous or bad for the clear bra. Wax will prevent it from yellowing and can help to prevent pitting from road debris and bug residue.
2010-07-28 12:40:40
#55
Great work man, glad to see another list member who knows how what "real auto detailing" is all about, here is some images of my work BMW 550 DETAIL pictures by MADTEC - Photobucket
2010-08-18 17:49:56
#56
Hey conwraith - I've been reading and maybe I missed it, but could you comment on a proper interior cleaning solution? I know many come down hard on armourall but never mention something in its stead. What do you use and recommend for getting the dust out of the fake leather stuff that is our doors, interior plastics, and dashboard that wont dry it out or attract more dust?
2010-08-18 21:21:57
#57
I'm not positive on what cleaners are available OTC, I use Meguiars APC+ at a 5:1 dilution on most interiors, and will then treat it with 303 Aerospace protectant. I've used Meguiars #40 Rubber/Vinyl cleaner/conditioner in the past, and it does work well, but it leaves I sort of chemical smell that I didn't like. Megs #40 can be found OTC.

I've also heard good things about 1Z Cockpit Premium, Meguiars Natural Shine, and even Meguiars Supreme Shine (for some reason Supreme Shine is supposed to leave a nice natural look to it).

The reason ArmorAll is so often chastised is that it is a petroleum based dressing, and nothing more. It is designed to make your interior look shiny and dark, and offers nothing in the form of protection and will actually cause premature fading and discoloration if used for a long enough period of time. Petroleum based dressings will just sit on the surface of your dash, leaving it very shiny, but also very greasy. Water based protectants (such as those I listed above) will actually absorb into vinyl, plastics, and rubbers and will help in blocking out UVB radiation, which is what causes drying, cracking, and discoloration as well as leave a nice natural looking shine.

I absolutely hate cleaning the windows on cars that have had oil based dressings used on them for a long time, it will leave an oily film on all the windows that takes a good bit of time to get completely clean and streak free, as if windows weren't hard enough already!


And on a side note, here is a cool car I was working on a few days ago.

1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GT - Truth In Detailing Auto Detailing Forum

Next week is another, much rarer Ferrari that I'm fairly nervous about, I will definitely post that up as well.
2010-08-18 21:26:25
#58
Another reason that water based protectants champion oil based dressings, you can maintain a clean interior using nothing more than a spritz bottle filled with water and a microfiber cloth when a water based protectant was used, which doesn't take more than a few minutes, while with a oil based dressing you would have to clean all the surfaces using an APC to ensure all the old dressing was removed before you could apply again.

Also as canX2k alluded to, oil based dressings are greasy and will collect dust while water based protectants won't.

Don't use ArmorAll.
2010-08-20 16:34:18
#59
Another quick question I have is for paintmatched plastic rear spoilers (nx) and side skirts and bumpers. Can we use the claybar, polish, and wax as we would any other metal part?

and maybe I missed it but what is OTC?
2010-08-20 16:47:22
#60
Ahh sorry, OTC is Over The Counter.

And yes you can treat the plastic panels the same as you would the metal panels. When doing intensive rotary buffing you need to be a little more careful as these panels are more heat sensitive than metal, but for any sort of standard detailing you are completely fine.
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