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Thread: Crank Case Ventilation fully explained. (Turbocharged edition.)

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2013-06-08 13:22:39
#141
has anyone figured out a way to fit in a nice belt driven pump in place with the ac was or where the power steering is if it were to be removed?
2013-06-21 15:58:05
#142
Originally Posted by BenFenner
From the N/A thread. Same principles apply to boosted setups.

Originally Posted by BenFenner
Using an air pump (electric or mechanical) to ventilate the crank case on 1991-1999 engines:


Effect on the following characteristics:
  • De-clutters the engine bay - No
  • Simplifies crank case ventilation system - No
  • Helps remove more oil from the air - Yes
  • Help evacuate the crank case - Yes
  • Maintains or improves the stock flow capacity - Yes
  • Helps promote ring seal and prevent blow-by - Yes
  • Helps prevent oil smoke in exhaust - Yes
  • Helps prevent dip stick from popping out - Yes
  • Helps prevent oil leaks due to pressure - Yes
  • Helps keep intake track clean including throttle body - Yes
  • Helps keep intake manifold/plenum clean - Yes
  • Maintains or reduces amount of pollutants - Yes
  • Maintains prevention of un-metered air from entering the intake - Yes
Consensus: GREAT IDEA!


hello ben just want to know if this would applicable for gtir engine ?
2013-06-21 16:58:05
#143
GTi-R engine should be functionally identical to the other SR20 engines when it comes to the PCV system. The only SR20 engines with any real difference are the BTCC engines, which had dry sumps, so they had no baffling in the valve cover. Their valve covers are basically flat, and they have no PCV system to speak of since the dry sump does that work.
Last edited by BenFenner on 2013-06-21 at 16-59-43.
2013-06-21 17:30:43
#144
I came across this: and its not the thread itself but what I found in post 624.

Poll: GI for PCV pieces - Mazdaspeed Forums

His testing of a pcv valve (and the addition of an oring)

to view the photobucket pictures, you'll have to view them on photobuckets site, since his bandwidth cap has been reached)
Last edited by unijabnx2000 on 2013-06-21 at 17-31-53.
2013-06-21 18:47:26
#145
I can't see the pics, even on Photobucket. =(
2013-06-21 19:09:50
#146
Weird it lets me, did you watch the videos?
2013-06-21 19:13:09
#147
Videos are blocked at work. I'll watch them soon.
2013-06-21 19:42:38
#148
That's awesome! I think I will try this myself, though I wonder if it will cause the PCV valve's plunger to stay so far back that it will restrict flow at vacuum.
2013-06-21 20:33:09
#149
This one might be worth looking over, but the diagrams arent as easy to understand as Ben's
(i think not being as familiar with their pcv system is part of it too)

OCC and crankcase pressure testing diaries - Mazdaspeed Forums
2014-04-29 06:37:29
#150
Originally Posted by BenFenner
Venting WOT section to atmosphere on 1989-1999 engines with "breather" filter:


Effect on the following characteristics:
  • De-clutters the engine bay - Maybe
  • Simplifies crank case ventilation system - Maybe
  • Maintains stock prevention of crank case pressurization - Yes
  • Stops intercooler from acting as an oil separator - Yes
  • Helps remove more oil from the air - No change
  • Help evacuate the crank case - No
  • Maintains or improves the stock flow capacity - Yes
  • Helps promote ring seal and prevent blow-by - No
  • Helps prevent oil smoke in exhaust - No
  • Helps prevent dip stick from popping out - No
  • Helps prevent oil leaks due to pressure - No
  • Helps keep intake track clean including throttle body - Yes
  • Helps keep intake manifold/plenum clean - No
  • Maintains or reduces amount of pollutants - No
  • Maintains prevention of un-metered air from entering the intake - No
Consensus: ACCEPTABLE IDEA



I actually think this is a very bad idea. the factory setup allows for PCV during boost. this does not. the factory setup is "good" and this one is "unacceptable". In other words, there is absolutely no reason to remove a perfectly good WOT PCV and replace it with... this. That is simply unacceptable. It just makes everything worse. This setup provides not one single positive benefit. The oil will become filthy faster, and power output will be reduced (possibly by 1-2%).


also,
Maintains stock prevention of crank case pressurization - Yes

I disagree. By opening a port from the crankcase to the atmosphere you invite atmospheric pressure into the crank case.

however, in a running engine, due to constant blow-by all engines produce, there will be slightly more pressure in the crank case than outside it during WOT. Which means the pressure inside the crankcase will be higher than atmospheric, even if just slightly. Which by definition, means that it is pressurized. As engine vacuum drops, and volumetric efficiency climbs, it will become increasingly pressurized. At idle there is enough engine vacuum to prevent an overall pressurization on a healthy engine, but that is NOT what that valvecover port is for: its for WOT.
Last edited by kingtal0n on 2014-04-29 at 07-00-34.
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