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2008-08-24 06:22:11
#1
*HID install Help*
Hey guys, I need some input on my HID install i did tonight. As far as i know, I triple checked and every connection is pretty much idiot proof, I am having some issues with my HID kit. It is an Eagle Eye High/lo kit. It is supposed to work with your factory high/ lo switch. I have installed everything correctly as far as I know. Here are my issues.

First off... I originally grounded the negative HID terminal to the negative battery terminal, as it is the best ground ( or so im told). With this the HID's work only on lo beams.

I then noticed ( completely braindead) that there was a ground on the chassis right by the battery tray in my NX. I disconnected everything and reagrounded it to this location. With then testing everything out, I had no Lo or High beams.

I then put everything back to how it was ( grounded to the negative battery terminal, and it works.

Anyways... here are the other symptoms. I read and talked to a few people and was told that it should not be a huge issue to upgrade the headlight lapmp fuses to what it specifies in the HID instruction manual. they are OEM fuses at 15A.

Currently the lo beams are working, but I notice for some reason the High beam indicator on the dash is on a very low glowing light with the lo beams on. If anybody has some input, it would be greatly appreciated. I am tempted to disconnect everything and go back with the regular headlights. I do not want any issues with this. Tommorow I will go and get some higher rated fuses and see if that works. But I am worried that the wiring will be under too much stress.

Overall, as far as the Beam pattern is, I am impressed. these lights are not that bad, I have the 5000K ones. The beam is not too scattered and it is a nice white light. I really need some help on this one guys, I honestly know jack **** about the electrical demons of our cars. My car seems to be infested with them. Once again I clearly followed the instructions to the best of my understanding from the manual and it is performing like this. I am just hoping that there is nothing wrong with the kit. Thanks to all who read and have input on this.
2008-08-24 06:37:18
#2
did u have to rewire for a different type of bulb? ex 9003 - H4? i installed the same ho/lo kit on my b14 and yeah its pretty idiot proof so you shouldnt get anything crossed. i just grounded it on my batt. everything works great hi & lo. i installed the cc headlights so i already had to rewire for the different type of bulb.
2008-08-24 13:03:40
#3
Hey JimmyNX,

I think I know what might be wrong. Your the one with the 9004 kit right?

Currently the lo beams are working, but I notice for some reason the High beam indicator on the dash is on a very low glowing light with the lo beams on.


Back with my stock 99 headlights that required 9007 bulbs I had a similar issue when I bought 9004 bulbs (because Walmart stated that was the correct bulb, boy they were wrong).

Anyway my symptoms were very similar. Low beams were high beams and high beams were low beams. The high beam light would slightly low on the dash too.

Now with the moving hid kit, there are no light differences between low beam and high beam, it just moves the light up. So it might look like your running low beams but you could actually be running at constant high beams right now haha.


Alright onto fixing the problem...
The only thing that comes to mind is 9004 and 9007 have a different ground wire. So you probably will need to do some splicing and reconnecting hehe.

You would basically have to cut off one end of the harness. I would do the cutting on the HID Kit's harness end, instead on the OEM end (in case you ever wanna go back to stock). Plus since the hid kit connects to only one 9004/9007 plug, that means that you would have one regularly wired plug and one newly wired plug on OEM side hehe.

Or I just remembered that you can run out to autozone and buy a 9004/9007 Male and female plugs. You can just plug into the stock plug, then move around the wiring, then connect to the HID kit plug, without splicing anything from any kits.

What you basically want to do is try different combinations of where the wires connect to. When you find the one that works, then crimp them. I said crimp and left soldering out on purpose. Solder is not as good in moving environments. wires constantly move in cars, and solder tends to break up after so long.

Now this might not work either, but it seems like the wiring is usually the issue.

Good luck and post back results
2008-08-24 13:36:13
#4
I think this is a sign that you should not be putting HID's in halogen housings.. The gods have spoken now go back to stock!

Think of all the other people on the road that have to put up with your blinding ricyness while driving in the middle of the night.

Mike
2008-08-24 15:03:26
#5
Originally Posted by Mike
I think this is a sign that you should not be putting HID's in halogen housings.. The gods have spoken now go back to stock!

Think of all the other people on the road that have to put up with your blinding ricyness while driving in the middle of the night.

Mike


Exactly why I went with a projector retrofit. Sure it's costly, but you get what you paid for. Now if all the ricer honda kiddies in EPT would do the same, I wouldn't have to hit high beams on them.
2008-08-24 16:30:39
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hey come now let not flame him or bash him for wanting a cheaper option for hids.

please help him out with this fellas for i have tried and it just hard to do without seeing it in person
2008-08-24 16:46:45
#7
jimmy have you used any tools like a wire tester to make sure all the wires are going where they are supposed too.

also can you check the beam pattern to make sure that it somehow not reversed somehow by when your lows are on your highs arent on and when your highs are on it disables the bulb.

that the only thing i can think of that may be the cause of this issue.
2008-08-24 16:57:32
#8
Originally Posted by Mike
I think this is a sign that you should not be putting HID's in halogen housings.. The gods have spoken now go back to stock!

Think of all the other people on the road that have to put up with your blinding ricyness while driving in the middle of the night.

Mike


I mean sure you can go with Silverstars, that cost $50 for two and only last a year...

People just forget to position the headlights down. The after market headlights that I have, JDM black housing ones, they were positioned to point very high from day one...

Originally Posted by TeKKiE
Exactly why I went with a projector retrofit. Sure it's costly, but you get what you paid for. Now if all the ricer honda kiddies in EPT would do the same, I wouldn't have to hit high beams on them.


Projectors give nice even lines, but besides it being very costly, I personally don't find them all that attractive looking.

So for that reason I went with a HID kit instead of doing a whole retrofit.

Either way it's not like he is installing Neon lights that we should flame him for
2008-08-24 17:46:57
#9
I appreciate all of your opinions, but I just want to see if i can get these to work right. I am just wanting help on making this work how it is supposed to.

That is a good point on the 9007 bulb. These bulbs have both a 9007 and a 9004 marking around the housing of the bulb. It only fits into the headlight of course with the 9004 notch facing up.

I am thinking it is an issue with the power supply or a fuse but I am not for sure. I have the headlights hooked up to the negative and positive battery terminals for the best possible power and ground.

im not going to get offended, but honestly It gives me really really good laugh for people that are relatively new to give me flak about rice. Just an FYI these were a gift, i didnt buy these. I am just playing around with them and would like to see it work right before I make up my mind on keeping them or not.
2008-08-24 17:52:12
#10
If you have the headlights hooked up directly to the negative and positive terminals of the battery, they are likely not getting the proper switch signal, and you're running them as high beams, and not low beams.

You said that the kit is for 9004/9007, however as previously mentioned, the ground wire is different between the two. It's possible that they're not wired for your specific app.

Get the FSM and look at the wire diagram. Get a multimeter and verify that the voltage and grounds go to the correct pins on the ballast harness.
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