Thread: How to build a 300 WHP/Liter SR (on the cheap?) discussion.

Its 4-5x the stock whp. What do you want from the block? Its only aluminum.

Question, if you are now starting with a VE block, would you consider changing back to a DET crank due to the differences in counter weights?

Since you are looking for a less expensive dyno queen you might check out the turbos for Caterpillars. The more bore you can get the better off you will be in this case IMO

im currently buildng a 600hp sr20ve on the cheap

my plan consists of
sr16ve long block
sr20det crank
eagle rods
stock bore 86mm cp pistons 10:1
everything else stock
(add in your basic ve head gasket fresh bearings, oem head studs ect,)

turbo wise id be using custom tubular t3 manifold ( i have this already)
holset hybrid hx35/40
4 inch downpipe 1000cc injectors
tial 44mm wastegate

ill be tuning on a Lugtronics stand alone which will have my 400kpa map sensor and boost controller built in i can tune boost per gear ect ect, its costing me 5000 dollars with my shopping around everything done by my self in my garage

thats up to you its a good idea but not necessary, im using a 4 counter weight crank in my de turbo set up currently and i have NO problems

Here is what I would put together on a long block budget build:

RWD bare short block with crank, mains and girdle oil pump: 250
VE head: 750
Supertech Springs and Ret-380
CP Pists: 550
Eagle Rods:350
Apexi H/G: 240
AEBS/Cosworth headstuds:200
oil groove machining on mains-120
machining for 19mm rod bearings:105
ARP mains:115
Bearings:230


Here are other options:

Carrillo Rods with CARR bolts: 1200
Pauter/Manley Rods: 750
Mazworx sleeved block:1000
Maz big bore gasket:250
1/2" headstud kit:225
1/2" headstud machining:210

I love this thread! Here's what I would do if I could do it all over again!

RWD block VE head! SR16VE cams. $1500
H beam rods, JE pistons (off the shelf). $700 (package price on ebay)
Twin scroll GT4292R. $3200? New turbo is expensive, but you can find used ones all the time for around $1000. Maybe 12-1300 for the manifold and $600 for wastegates.

It would rev to 8k and make around 500lb ft of torque. On pump. I wouldn't do anything to the block really other than have it cleaned. Headwork not necessary.

The best part is this setup would make over 700whp on race gas, all the while maintaining very little work to achieve. I don't think sleeving the block is absolutely necessary but it will help with longevity. This setup would rock so hard! It would spool 20psi around 4500-5000rpm.

I can still wish can't i?

only 8000rpm with that turbo!! bring it to the limit!!!

management ? fuel pump ? clutch and gearset that will take what gets thrown at it ? not to mention all of the hidden costs people forget to factor in, machining, bearings, oilpump (if replaced) water pump (if replaced) new timing chain, tensioner, guides, studs and bolts.

theres plenty of other things you could add, i for one wouldn't want a 600hp car on standard suspension or brakes

i agree with who-ever said 600bhp and cheap shouldn't be in the same sentance tbh, it all starts adding up

Those saying it can't be done can kindly leave.