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2013-05-15 00:57:01
#31
Originally Posted by eric96ser
Which are perfect if you don't have a B14 and don't need OBD2. Calum had an OBD2 compatible ECU years ago, why don't they?



I feel like I've seen a ghost.
2013-05-15 02:47:06
#32
Originally Posted by Boostlee
VEs are the future?? Tell that to Mr Pioneer Marsh as he returned to his "roots" recently

I'll rather spend 3K to make 400WHP than spend 10K to make 300WHP. All about priorities

truthful sarcasm



Who the heck spends $10k to do a VE swap? No one I know. In fact, it's not even close. I think your numbers are bit off. And let me know how you can spend $3k to make 400WHP in a DET unless you buy the car already making it from a desperate person.

You have to remember your average SR20 user is not interested, nor capable of making 400WHP, nor 300WHP. Not to mention, these cars are FWD unless your talking about the 240SX, and my VE with 206+whp spins like a bitch in 1st gear. On the street, the 200+whp FWD B13 drives well and has plenty of passing/merging power, but forget about a launch. Sure I have crap tires but still..
Last edited by Storm88000 on 2013-05-15 at 03-01-18.
2013-05-15 03:05:47
#33
@Storm88000 you went as far as quoting my post but NOT reading a single portion of it??

2013-05-15 03:20:53
#34
Originally Posted by Storm88000
.......................And let me know how you can spend $3k to make 400WHP in a DET unless you buy the car already making it from a desperate person.



Pssssttttttt.........a dyno proven 390+whp for under 3K shameless plug

I don't know why I keep getting suckered into these discussions

2013-05-15 03:24:35
#35
I read the post. I saw 10k vs 3k.
2013-05-15 03:26:37
#36
Originally Posted by Storm88000
I read the post. I saw 10k vs 3k.


............And that's the issue, ironically

3K = 400 reliable WHP turbo
10K = 300 "maybe" reliable WHP N/A

If you combine the two, that means a turbo VE will make a reliable 700 whp
Last edited by Boostlee on 2013-05-15 at 03-27-51.
2013-05-15 03:34:48
#37
OK, but I don't see how a turbo is more reliable than NA. The way I see it is more parts = more potential trouble
2013-05-15 04:31:45
#38
Because the way you make mad NA power is when the motor is basically a ticking time bomb. The closer it is to exploding in a million pieces the faster it is...
Last edited by 00 blk G20T on 2013-05-15 at 04-33-00.
2013-05-15 11:38:58
#39
Originally Posted by Vadim


I'm not sure why CSK's are still so highly regarded when you can get a set of BC's which blow CSK's out of the water in price, adjust-ability, and monotubeness. :-D


Not from what I understand. I'm no suspension guru, but when veilside180sx tells me it's one of the best street suspensions out there for that price or even double that (aside from bits n pieces), I tend to believe him. I will agree the BC's are good pricepoint wise, but not even in the same level of damping. I would love a set of 8611s in GCs.
2013-05-15 13:09:00
#40
Originally Posted by eric96ser
Calum's OBD2 ECU had nothing to do with the emissions part of it, just like a JWT ECU.

I can understand it can take a long time to work through the code and you might sell a few, but if you look at how quick the B14 boards sold, and how they have held value, it might be worth it. I'm not saying they need to break the OBD2 tables to be able to turn various parts of the emissions off, but it would be nice to have another option for those of us that can't convert to OBD1.

I know the history of Calum and his ECUs. I had the first in my 200 and worked with him on the issues. I had one of the first realtimes in my B13 as well.


John could release an OBD2 chip, but it would have minimal tunability just like Calum OBD2's and Nistune ECU's, until Dave rewrites the code and makes an extensive definitions file. Which in the process, I'm sure he will have to deal with OBD2 regulated ECU components in the code too and this is where all the trouble comes.

I'm curious on what JWT actually does, either A they reverse engineered the ecu themselves to get an extensive definitions file or B Nissan was nice to give them the definitions file. Regardless, JWT ECU's are closed source and non-user tunable. John and Dave's ECU is built around user tunability, which means the user could screw with OBD2 items. You just have to be a lot more careful when releasing a tuning platform for OBD2 cars then OBD1 cars, thus I do not blame them for first developing it for an easier platform.

In your case I would just wait, I personally would love 32 bit tuning solution for my B15's and P11's, that way I don't have to spend a week re-splicing the whole wiring harness, but that's just dreaming. I still would love to use a 16bit OBD2 option too, I do miss my OBD2 scan gauge and other gadgets...

Originally Posted by SE-Rtainlyb13
Originally Posted by Vadim


I'm not sure why CSK's are still so highly regarded when you can get a set of BC's which blow CSK's out of the water in price, adjust-ability, and monotubeness. :-D


Not from what I understand. I'm no suspension guru, but when veilside180sx tells me it's one of the best street suspensions out there for that price or even double that (aside from bits n pieces), I tend to believe him. I will agree the BC's are good pricepoint wise, but not even in the same level of damping. I would love a set of 8611s in GCs.


As been posted in another similar thread, I can't speak against 8611's (except for the fact they are twin tube), but I can speak for regular Koni Yellow's which are going to be much worse then BC's, CSK'ed or not.

Either way our cars still have a TON of aftermarket suspension support.
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