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2013-05-16 03:55:40
#61
Originally Posted by BenFenner
Someone forgets how cheap a turbo Dodge Shadow was in the 1980s. Mitsubishi gave us cheap 4-cyl turbo cars in the form of Dodges coming out of every hole.


Dodge Shadow turbos? Seriously? How many were made, like 34?

I've never seen one in person in my entire life. I'm sure they are cool though.
Last edited by Storm88000 on 2013-05-16 at 03-59-07.
2013-05-16 03:58:27
#62
Originally Posted by Boostlee
Originally Posted by Storm88000
Originally Posted by 00

I'll leave the rest of your post for you to figure where you made mistakes in both perception, assumption and logic


Did you know that your signature says "ban everybody"

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Last edited by Storm88000 on 2013-05-16 at 04-07-01.
2013-05-16 04:08:30
#63
Yes, I can read, thanks
2013-05-16 05:51:38
#64
Originally Posted by Storm88000
Originally Posted by BenFenner
Someone forgets how cheap a turbo Dodge Shadow was in the 1980s. Mitsubishi gave us cheap 4-cyl turbo cars in the form of Dodges coming out of every hole.


Dodge Shadow turbos? Seriously? How many were made, like 34?

I've never seen one in person in my entire life. I'm sure they are cool though.


Chrysler K-car platform. Do the Google, more than 34 lol... Dodge Omni GLH & GLHS were the most remembered of the budget Chrysler/Dodge turbo platforms though. RIP Carroll Shelby.
2013-05-16 11:24:34
#65
Originally Posted by Storm88000
Originally Posted by 00
Because the way you make mad NA power is when the motor is basically a ticking time bomb. The closer it is to exploding in a million pieces the faster it is...


Ok, I'll give you that.. but, why did so many vehicles come factory with big ass engines making lots of power NA? Why did/does the Corvette come with a NA V8 instead of, I don't know, a turbo V6?

Unless your talking a matter of tradition and that the cars of that nature (Corvette, Mustang, Camaro etc) began with the V8's and they became part of American culture. IDK.

It's only now that it seems car companies are starting to go turbo instead of built NA motors from the factory, with the exception of Subaru. In the United States, Subaru gets the big thumbs up for really starting the affordable, turbo 4 cylinder. Now Hyundai and all these other makers are coming out with turbo 4 and 6 cylinders.

For turbo in the 90's, yes we had the Toyota MR2, the Nissan 300ZX, the Toyota Supra, the Mazda RX-7.... but at the time, those cars were way expensive. Even a 1990 300zx non turbo was what, $35k new? By the time it was done, in 1996, the 300ZX TT was so expensive, I can't even imagine what it would be in today's prices. Same with the Supra.

So whats my point? Well, I don't really know. It may be because I've never owned a turbo SR20. Just built NA's, (until now just basic bolt ons) but now I'm driving around a '92 SE-R w/ SR20VE swap with cams, valve springs, port and polished head and manifold etc. and every bolt on making probably 210whp. That is faster than a SR20DET (unless your talking high boost on a T28, or, of course, a T3/4) - it may have cost me more to do so, but I feel like there's less parts to worry about. Everyone I know who has added a turbo to their car has random little gremlins here and there. Hell, I've had my share too, but I feel more comfortable NA. It may be because I do the same things over and over and over and over again. IDK


Turbo engines have been around for almost 100 years. The reason they are being used more these days is because of the power/fuel economy demand. Up until the last 10 years or so, it really wasn't needed in passenger vehicles.

And for the record, there were lots of turbo cars back in the 70's/80's/90's. Benz, BMW, Starion/Conquest, Buick Grand National, Mustang, Merkur, RX7, Isuzu, Porsche etc, etc.

I'll also add that there was a stigma, especially in the 80's, about turbo cars that was not good. The stigma was that, yes they're fast, but not very reliable and will be more maintenance. That's the biggest thing that has changed in recent years.
Last edited by hammerin hank on 2013-05-16 at 13-51-30.
2013-05-16 13:27:42
#66
Originally Posted by hammerin

Turbo engines have been around for almost 100 years. The reason they are being used more these days is because of the power/fuel economy demand. Up until the last 10 years or so, it really wasn't needed in passenger vehicles.

And for the record, there were lots of turbo cars back in the 70's/80's/90's. Benz, BMW, Starion/Conquest, Buick Grand National, Mustang, Merkur, RX7, Porsche etc, etc.

I'll also add that there was a stigma, especially in the 80's, about turbo cars that was not good. The stigma was that, yes they're fast, but not very reliable and will be more maintenance. That's the biggest thing that has changed in recent years.


I have no idea what we're arguing about anymore, but this is 100% true.

-G
2013-05-16 13:49:56
#67
Originally Posted by gomba
Originally Posted by hammerin

Turbo engines have been around for almost 100 years. The reason they are being used more these days is because of the power/fuel economy demand. Up until the last 10 years or so, it really wasn't needed in passenger vehicles.

And for the record, there were lots of turbo cars back in the 70's/80's/90's. Benz, BMW, Starion/Conquest, Buick Grand National, Mustang, Merkur, RX7, Porsche etc, etc.

I'll also add that there was a stigma, especially in the 80's, about turbo cars that was not good. The stigma was that, yes they're fast, but not very reliable and will be more maintenance. That's the biggest thing that has changed in recent years.


I have no idea what we're arguing about anymore, but this is 100% true.

-G


I don't know either, but the minute the "K" car is brought up i have to put my foot down, damn it.....
2013-05-16 13:54:00
#68
Originally Posted by gomba

I have no idea what we're arguing about anymore, but this is 100% true.

-G


We are males, we argue just to have fun
2013-05-16 15:32:48
#69
I've been on hiatus. Lurking.

Got a bit burnt out. I'd been on the forum nearly every single day from 2004-2012.

Got very, very broke. 2011 sky-high. 2013 scraping by. Still stunned and stressed.

Cannot, no-way, no-how, make the Convention this year, will definitely be there next.

Not going to the Convention (---> money issues) was a primary reason for my hiatus. Tough to admit this, it got me (situationally) depressed (not chronic-depression as in the past). I'm not the most stable cat you ever met. Sky high to scraping and stressing was a very, very bitter pill. I'm not proud of that, but it is what it is. Coming to the forum, reminded me of the soon-to-be-missed Convention.

That is how important Conventions are. The cars are window-dressing, play-toys, a "fun focus" for the most part.

Manny @SE-Rawkus took a break for a while, now he's back. Ben took a break, he's back.

I'm coming back around.

My SE-R is running strong. Needs a little TLC, but I am finally (finally) able to focus on my 900 square foot shed. For the first time since I moved here, I can actually see parts of the concrete slab now(!). I can actually move all the way around the whole car. With room to spare. Like for a jack-handle for instance. The SE-R TLC is actually going to happen now that my shed is not a freakish (depressing, aggravating, back-burner) disaster.

Aside from some maintenance-TLC, I've got a metric-shit-ton of new or new-to-me parts to bolt-on to my ride. @happynole is currently sending me a box of even more cool car-parts real soon. ....

With a little luck, I may even succeed in the bolting-on part and post some updates to my Members Ride thread soon.

I am finally getting to the point where I am running out of things to modify, and when I can afford it (*sigh*), more power is going into the bay. That should put a ridiculous smile on my face.

I speculate that the influx of youngsters to this forum has certainly and understandably slowed. But like others have stated, this platform IS a modern-day 510. This forum and the Conventions are going to keep right on rolling along.

I believe there are plenty of us that will be and are sticking around long-term with this motor and vehicle(s).

I will never, ever sell my SE-R.

Shawn B
2013-05-16 15:36:28
#70
My mom had one of those Carroll Shelby versions of the shadow, was a fun freaking car, think i was like 8...Sold it to my grandpa and then he eventually ended up selling it. Fun cars, but expensive to fix if a problem since not many of them otu there for parts.
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