Thread: Fuel additive. ATTN: Covert

Ok so some of you may know I am a compulsive talk radio listener. Well Ed Schultz keeps pumping this stuff. With gas prices set to bone us again this year I figured I'd see what y'all think of the latest snake oil.

http://www.ca40g.com/home.php?xid=04b22fdcd59759a6e2a7ba106b14c026

Hahahahahahha I love the Snake Oil term

Anyway, personally I don't think its worth my $35, but if everyone wants me to try it out with the ScanGauge II, I could give my Paypal addy

I actually ordered some. I've got a few long drives coming up and I'll use it on the 200. I am concerned about its use on Nissan injectors which (as we know) are sensitive. So engineers and physical chemists please chime in.

If its bad for us I'll put it in homegirl's Hyundai. Incidentally I have been urging her to buy a P11. hehe.

Haha well I've used Seafoam and other injector cleaners in the past, before knowing what it does...

Thats good, I've been looking for a P11 for my Fiance too, she has a Honda that could be used for a test too

MSDS for CA-40:
http://www.ca40g.com/skin1/images/MSDS.pdf

Calcium sulfonate used as grease thickener:
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/article_detail.asp?articleid=909&pagetitle=Understanding%20Calcium%20Sulfonate%20Thickeners

Mobil uses it in their grease:
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAUSENGRSMOMobilCentaurMoly.asp

CA-40 didn't work here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/15/82112/0081
http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=28284&pid=454871&mode=threaded&show=&st=&#entry454871

More CA-40 skeptics here:
http://michigangasprices.com/Forum_MSG.aspx?master=1&category=1056&topic=268102&page_no=10&FAV=N
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1271179.html

I'd like to read this paper on calcium sulfonate done by SAE:
http://www.sae.org/technical/papers/912295

I'd really like to see a study by the EPA and/or FTC.

More links for fuel savers/additives:
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels.htm
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/autos/aut10.shtm
http://www.fuelsaving.info/

Until they post data by an independent lab, with some sort of approval by the EPA/govt,
I'd be very hesitant to waste money on this stuff.


Other additives people have tried = Acetone:
http://www.southeasternohiopreps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=727951&sid=73874f05508cf72c15c106e65c4530e2
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/acetone.asp

I'll let you know. I'm getting a tank in with a fresh oil change as a base line. Will add it soon and see.

Hopefully I can get results before the switch from winter blend. I think May 11 is the last legal day in Oregon.

I think they switched blends here a while ago... not 100% sure though.

What's this switching blend stuff you guys are talking about?

EPA site on gasoline:
http://epa.gov/otaq/gasoline.htm

Winter oxygenated fuel info:
http://epa.gov/otaq/regs/fuels/420b08006.pdf

Reformulated Gasoline Areas:
http://epa.gov/otaq/rfg/whereyoulive.htm#required

EPA study on energy difference in reformulated fuels, summer vs. winter and also a study on factors that affect fuel economy:
http://epa.gov/otaq/rfgecon.htm

Hey guys have anyone heard of Ethos FR?

Basically I heard about this product from a trucker, it's quite expensive, $20 for 16oz, but that 16oz treats 150 gallons of fuel.

Now I also heard that the US Military use this product in the field to extend the gas mileage.

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