Thread: Dont buy fake SH|T ( Good article ) Mike Kojima's site.

The cost of most of these parts are no more than the other. Companies like HKS, Tomei, Cusco and Greddy are selling shit at high price on name alone. Yes they do make some high quality products but they have overpriced them self out of the market with their so called product brand name.

Lastly Tomei, HKS, Greddy and Nismo are getting their injs made at the same place as Nissan does, so the quality of the injs are the same ( not if not better). Keep beliving the bull shit and the hype

wooaahhh lets keep this civil,

so hks have got to (or pay someone else to) design, issue drawings, issue procedures to manufacture these components, issue various procedures to conform with SAE standards (amongst the 100 others regarding handling explosive product) when designing, testing and manufacturing these components, design various quality control methods, along with 100 other things.

to say they are jacking up the price to make a fortune is just incorrect. I don't believe anything, I know because I have to live with the above red tape all day.

get it made in china, you don't have to deal with any of the above, you ask for a part and they make it, but would you buy a set of injectors designed in china for the cheapest possible cost that are most likely illegal in a large proportion of the globe?

Well you can buy a cast aluminum diff cover for $300 from Nismo or HKS or some off brand one for $100. See where the consumer goes.

There is some product that these compnies produce that are better but 75% of the prodducts can be made cheaper.

At the end of the day the consumer will decide and I guarantee the consumer will decide with their wallet and not the crap these large companies are spoon feeding some people.

You look at articles written like the one at the start of the thread. These articles are written with a diffrent motive in mind.

Lets talk exhausts

HKS, Tomei, Greddy, Blitz and so on are not getting my money for their shit. You guys want to suport a good company that builds exhausts. Its called VRS or Miami Muffler. They will build you an exhaust with whatever muffler you want at way less the price.

Again these companies are jacking up the prices........

Most of these companies will not find their parts on my car.

Question, does Japan even have a fair trade market with China meaning does Japan buy and sell stuff made in China? If not then well theres your reason why everything is name brand over there in the parts market and why their name brand stuff would be cheaper because they dont have as much competition. Again I dont know the whole details of how Japan operates as a country.

And im with Miko, the name brand stuff is marked up only by their name not the quality. Im sorry. An H-beam rod made from the same material the same way by the same machines is gonna have the same quality. They cant say otherwise.

An injector made from the same parts, the same way, is not gonna be any better than any other injector of the same design.

There is no reason Greddy and Tomei head studs should cost upwards of 500 bucks when a set of Golden Eagles made from the same or stronger material go for 110-120 bucks or a set of mazworx arp 2000 material type headstuds go for 250 and are way stronger than either of those studs.

Its all name. It has nothing to do quality or cost of production at all. 1/2 the value is product and quality the other half all name. Period

Lastly guys buy American when they can give you a quality product for a good price unlike what Hostshot did, where they gave you a high priced product that was of lower quality than other companies out there. The worst part was how some pushed the Hotshit product when they would not even listen to what the consumers wanted.

oh by no means am i suggesting that the system is perfect and the above is right,

i was just trying to offer an explanation of the high prices other than greed.

its not neccisarily the quality of the product raising the costs,

its the deviation from standard manufacture which incurs additional costs, no two rods that are different in price (i.e. je and tomei) are going to be exactly the same rod,

you've got additional tooling costs, additional design changes etc to deal with and ultimately very small production, which again raises costs.

To say that greed is the deviating factor between the companies is wrong, im not saying the process which makes the name brands cost a fortune is right or the way it should be done. Just trying to explain why its there in the first place.

I agree with everything you guys have said and I just wanted to sweeten the pot a little. I love that you can get "brembo" calipers on ebay for less than 20 bucks!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Brembo-Style-Universal-Disc-Brake-Caliper-Covers-4pcs-Front-and-Rear-New-3D-/170746352616?hash=item27c14693e8&item=170746352616&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

The bottom line why everything is made in China.

1. In China they pay people pennies, or maybe nothing at all for all we know, to manufacture products.
2. They don't develop their own products, and there is so much copying that it is impossible to regulate
3. There are no manufacturing regulations over there. They rape the environment hard on a daily basis. They literally dump toxic waste and manufacturing by-products directly into water suppplies ect. Adjacent countries are being poisoned.
4. We are greedy.

Until these things change, which they never will, everything will continue to be made in China. Think about it. We have minimum wage, manufacturing standards, etc. It's not like manufacturing in China can be done at 1/2 the cost as here in the US. It is more lke 1/1000 of the cost! If they are paying a laborer $1.00 a day in China that's like 1/58 of what we would have to pay a $7.25 minimum wage worker for an 8 hour day! The labor might as well be free at that point!

Eventually, our government will have to put the squeeze on Chinese imports and give US companies the incentive to manufacture back in North America. That will make inflation go through the roof, but f*ck it, at least I'll have a decent job.